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From: Will Brown <>
Subject: Re: [MDCECIL] Louisa (SAULNIER) SEVERSON BENSON
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2004 11:05:42 -0400
In-Reply-To: <001801c41ae1$e1593460$8bfa5142@tudy>


Rosanne,
Your conclusions all make perfect sense, the 3 could be easily an 8. I think
I photographed the tombstones, I'll have to look. Now whether James H.
married Louisa Rumford before Louisa Saulnier Severson is the next level. I
really appreciate your efforts on my behalf, I hesitate to ask for more.
I'll sign up for Ancestry Free trial and see what I can find about the other
Bensons of Cecil. James H. is "only" a half gggg uncle but still a piece of
the puzzle.
Thanks so much, you have been very generous.
Will


> Will,
>
> Do you think it possible the date of death on Louisa's tombstone might be 21
> Feb 1883 rather than 21 Feb 1833, i.e., do you think the first "3" in the
> year of death you viewed on her tombstone might originally have been an "8"
> that's worn away with time and now looks like a "3"? As you might recall,
> the 1880 census records I sent you show widow "Louisa S. BENSON" (age 76)
> living with her son George W. BENSON; thus, it would seem a date of death in
> the 1880s is a possibility.
>
> Louisa's maiden name was SAULNIER, i.e., I found the following marriage
> announcement for Louisa SAULNIER and John SEVERSON:
>
> "The Survivor" newspaper (Philadelphia County, PA)
> Wednesday, 12 Sep 1827
> Vol. 1 # 11- p. 87
>
> Married: On the 6th inst. by the Rev. Mr. MONTGOMERY, Mr.
> John SEVERSON, of Maryland, to Miss Louisa, daughter of John
> SAULNIER, Esq. of this city.
>
> Source URL:
> http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:bjw5Dce8FhsJ:ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/
> pa/philadelphia/newspapers/souv0001.txt++%22john+saulnier%22&hl=en&lr=lang_en&
> ie=UTF-8
>
> I found the following info re John SAULNIER and Joseph SAULNIER of
> Philadelphia (apparently they arrived in Philadelphia in the 1790s):
>
> 1. From "Second Presbyterian Church Marriages 1763-1812, Philadelphia, PA":
>
> 1794: Joseph SAULNIER and Rachel ENGEARD married 2 Dec 1794
> 1800: John SAULNIER and Mary WILSON married 30 Jan 1800
>
> Source URL:
> http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/philadelphia/church/2dpresby01.txt
>
> 2. From "The Philadelphia Directory & Stranger's Guide for 1825," Page 122:
>
> SAULNIER, John, commission merc., 280 High
>
> Source URL:
> http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/philadelphia/misc/citydir/1825/page122
> .txt
>
> As you'll recall, according to census records Louisa was born in PA. I
> checked the indices for the 1800, 1810, and 1820 censuses and the only
> SAULNIER heads of household in the entire U.S. listed were:
>
> 1. 1800: John SAULNIER of Philadelphia High Street Ward, Philadelphia, PA.
>
> 2. 1810: John SAULNIER of Cedar Ward Philadelphia, Philadelphia, PA
> (included in his household were two females under the age of 10); and Joseph
> SAULNIER of W Southwark, Philadelphia, PA (his household was composed of
> nine "all other free persons").
>
> 3. 1820: John SAULNIER of N-WD, Philadelphia, PA (included in his
> household were one female age 10-16 and four females age16-26); and Joseph
> SAULNIER of South Mulberry-WD, Philadelphia, PA (the only female living in
> his household was under the age of 10).
>
> So ... it would appear that Louisa's maiden name was SAULNIER, her father
> was John SAULNIER, and Mary WILSON was probably her mother.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Will Brown
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 3:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [MDCECIL] Cecil County Marriage Licenses Issued
>
>
> Thanks for the info. I will have to get down there. I was near Elkton
> yesterday, but I doubt if they are open on Saturdays and I didn't really
> have the time to stop if they were.
> My problem is that Louisa Severson (widow Of John Severson) died about 7
> months before the day of their marriage. She died 21 Feb 1833 and they were
> married 3 Nov of the same year.
> The death record comes from viewing her tombstone, which are not always
> correct (and I may have not read it correctly either). Often they are
> erected much later and people's memory is not always 100% accurate. More
> likely to remember the day and month than the year.
> I just came across an email I received from Doris Brostrom in 1999 (she used
> to be a very active member of this list) which she states that they were
> married 2 Nov 1834. Her reference was her "Cecil County Marriages Book."
> There is no doubt that James H. Benson married Louisa, the widow of John
> Severson for he erected a tombstone to the memory of Charles Severson, son
> of John and Louisa Severson. Erected by his step father, James H. Benson.
> Well, looking at the inscription again shows that she was still living when
> Charles died in 1855!! The full inscription:
>
> ³In Memory of Charles S.
> son of John & Louisa S. Severson who departed
> this life May 31, 1855 aged 24 years 4 months & 11 days
> My dearest son, thou are gone
> And left me here below
> To mourn the sad & sudden death
> A mother¹s heart with grief o¹er flow
> LSB
> Erected by his Step Father
> James H. Benson
>
> So it not the marriage date that so much in question, it's her death date.
>
> James H. Benson Jr.'s death certificate says his mother was Louisa S.
> Saulnier. Saulnier could have been her maiden name or her married name after
> James H. Benson Sr. died and she remarried ____ Saulnier. I suspect that the
> death certificate would show her maiden name?
>
> Will Brown
>
>
>> To ascertain whether or not the Ancestry.com folks made an error in
>> transcribing the marriage info re James H. BENSON and Louisa SEVERSON for
>> their "Maryland Marriages, 1667-1899" database, you might want to check:
>>
>> Cecil County, Maryland Marriages, 1777-1850
>> County court records located at Elkton, Maryland
>> Family History Library film # (0013866)
>>
>> - or -
>>
>> Maryland State Archives
>> Cecil County Court (Marriage Licenses)
>> Dates: 1777-1840
>> Accession No.: 9435
>> MSA No.: C 632-1
>> Location: 1/11/6/38
>>
>> BTW, the marriage date for James H. BENSON and Louisa SEVERSON in the
>> "Maryland Marriages, 1667-1899" database is 2 Nov 1833.
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Will Brown
>> To:
>> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 12:09 PM
>> Subject: [MDCECIL] Cecil County Marriage Licenses Issued
>>
>>
>> Hello again,
>> Does anyone have the book: _Cecil County Marriage Licenses Issued_ ?
>> Is do you you be kind enough to look up the following marriage and see if
> I
>> have transcribed it correctly?
>>
>> Nov 3 1833 James H. Benson to Louisa Severson.
>>
>> Thank you so much.
>> Will Brown
>>
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