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From: Carol <>
Subject: Re: [MDCECIL] Burial, St Stephen's / North Sassafras, 1730's?
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 12:08:39 -0400
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Ellen:
Thank you for checking these for me. They all fit. I have them all but
Thomas & Mary with daughter Kathrin b. 13 April 1713. I don't know who
they are.
>Would you let me know how this all fits together with what you have? I have
>a few questions. Is Mary, "widow of William" the mother of Catherine,
>William Junr. And Margaret?
>
>That means that Susannah, William Junr., Jan, Mary, Margaret, and Catherine
>are children of William, and perhaps, Mary?
Answers:
Mary "widow of William" is the mother of Catherine, Margaret, Mary,
Susanna, William, Jr., Jan.
Maryland Calendar of Wills
Parsons, Mary, widow,Cecil Co.,20th Dec., 1735;
25th Feb., 1739.
To daus. Margaret and Catherine, entire estate.
Ex.: Thomas Johnson.
Test: Anthony Whitley, Jerh. Larkin, Rachel Larkin.
22. 154.
Peter Lareux and Mary Murrain were listed as next of kin on Mary Parsons
will in 1739.
Carol's question: Who was Mary Murrain? This is where I got the idea that
William and Mary's daughter Mary, might have wed a Murrain.
>Where did you find out about the other children?
Other children listed in the Will of William PARSONS as follows:
Parsons, William, gentleman,Town Point, Cecil Co.,7th Aug., 1716;
18th Sept., 1716.
To wife Mary, ½ dwell. plant. and personalty during life, and 1/3 personal
estate, absolutely.
To son William and hrs., tract bou. of Col. Casparus Aug. Herman. Shd. son
William die without issue, sd. land to pass to 2nd son Jan.
To son Jan and hrs., tract bou. of Ephraim Augustine Herman (son of
Casparus Aug. Herman, afsd.) and containing 100 A. Shd. son Jan die without
issue, his portion to be equally enjoyed by 3 daus., Mary, Margaret and
Catharine and their hrs. Also, shd. both sons, William and Jan die without
issue, their land to be equally divided among the daus. afsd.
To eldest dau., Susannah Linton, personalty under certain conditions, she
having had a portion.
Exs.: Wife Mary, assisted by eldest son William, when he arrives at age of 21.
House, now occupied by Jan Parket, left testator by grandfather in
Branford, Dorchester, to be sold and proceeds divided among said five
children, viz.: Wm., Jan, Mary, Margaret and Catharine, who are residuary
legatees of estate, real and personal.
Test: Henry Jones, Sarah Hues, John Tarvert. 14. 299.
I'll throw out my theory for what it's worth. If anyone can help me prove
or disprove, I will welcome it either way.
There were PARSONS who sailed from England on the ship "Mary & John" and
helped to found Springfield, Massachusetts. These are ancestors of Cornet
Joseph Parsons. Cornet Joseph and other Parsons appear in Cape May Co., NJ
eventually. I feel the Cecil Co. Parsons are people who worked their way
down from New England and settled in Maryland and in NJ. I don't know in
which order [MD first and then NJ or the other way around] or which people
from the family moved from one location to the other. I have never been
able to put my missing Jehu or is brother, William, anywhere but St.
Stephen's birth record. After that it's a mystery. I can find tiny
strings that seem to lead to a tie between the MD, DE and NJ PARSONS and
also the New England names. Still, nothing concrete. Most Parsons
researchers have dug until they reached exhaustion to prove the Cape May
and Cumberland Co, NJ PARSONS connect with the conclusion that they are
different families. I still don't think so. I'm not exhausted yet so I'm
still digging and trying to find how the adjoining counties of Cape May and
Cumberland might be the home for the same Parsons line.
The Parsons in New England were from Dorset, England [at least some of
them] and that is where the Will of William Parsons says there is property
that once belonged to a grandfather.
Is this the William Parsons who appears in NY with the Dutch Laroux or the
Van Bibbers and all of them traveled a similar route south ending up
together in Cecil Co?
There are no census records for Dorset that early but I have found there
are Parish Records of Christenings, Marriages and Burials for the period of
time that my Parsons could have been living in Dorset. Those records are
Blandford Forum 1731-1883 and Blandford St. May 1581-1837. I haven't seen
these records and I don't know how to do that. I know nothing about
English research or how to go about finding out. If anyone on the list is
knowledgeable about this, I'd love to know more.
The name Blandford appears again. This time near Town Point or Cecil Town
as follows:
Source: George Redus -
The following Indenture is filed in the Baltimore County Court House: James
Redus completed the inventory of William Parson's estate January 1744. The
indenture between James Redus and Catherine his wife of Cecil County, Md,
Planter and John Holtham of same county. Said James Redus and his wife sell
for $40.00 all of a tract or parcel which was called Collets Land, Glen's
Delight, now called Blandford, part of tract called Town Point or Cecil
Town. This document was signed by James Redus and his wife Catherine
Parsons, October 5, 1751.
This concludes my information to date. If anyone can help me make sense of
it and solve the Parsons puzzle, I'd be more than grateful to put to rest a
30 or more year search for my Jehu PARSONS. [I still have the feeling Jehu
might have been called John in some records and this makes for even more
confusion. I continue to look for both Jehu and John Parsons who were born
abt 1737.
Carol
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [mailto:] On
>Behalf Of Carol
>Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 8:41 AM
>To:
>Subject: Re: [MDCECIL] Burial, St Stephen's / North Sassafras, 1730's?
>
>Ellen:
>
>Yes, yes this is the right pair. I would certainly be interested in other
>Parsons around that time. I had death dates for William and Gerturett both
>in December 1741 a few weeks apart. I wondered if this was correct. This
>William Parsons who married Gerturett Laurux had brothers and sisters as
>follows:
>
>Susannah who married Henry Linton but I don't know when.
>William who is Jehue and little William's father
>Jan
>Mary who could have married a Murrain [possibilly Daniel or Thomas] not
>sure of the Murrain connection; only a possibility
>Margaret
>Catherine who married James Redus on December 13, 1741 in Cecil Co.
>
>Thank you so much for checking this.
>
>Carol
>
>
>
>
>At 06:59 AM 9/17/2006, you wrote:
> >I found:
> >William Parsons & Gerturett Laurux married 6 Jan 1734
> >p. 6 of "Early Anglican Church Records of Cecil County, Maryland" by Henry
> >C. Peden, Jr. There are other references to the Parsons family in the book
> >if someone needs them.
> >
> >I got unsubscribed from the MD-CECIL list somehow and missed some posts. I
> >have some VanSandt information from a couple of years ago. There were
> >Vansandt family (various spellings) in the Cecil County area as well as in
> >Delaware.
> >
> >Ellen Ward
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: [mailto:] On
> >Behalf Of Carol
> >Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 10:04 PM
> >To:
> >Subject: Re: [MDCECIL] Burial, St Stephen's / North Sassafras, 1730's?
> >
> >Liz:
> >
> >I have had a little time to study the items you sent and they are most
> >fascinating. Just a couple of observations:
> >
> >Aaltje (Alice) van Sandt (prob born around 1700), another d/o Stoffel van
> >Sandt & Rachel Corssen, married a Samuel LaRue
> >
> >The Corsen family appeared at Gravesend L.I., NY and were whalers who made
> >their way south into Cape May Co., NJ There were also Vansant or Vanzant
> >families in the same area. Both lines are still represented there today.
> >
> >This one is the most interesting to me:
> >
> >~Geertruy: 1705 Feb 14; Bartholomeus Le Roux, Geertruy Van Rollegom;
> >Geertruy; Hendericus Van der Spiegel & wife Tryntie Stoutenburg
> >[[can she be your "Garturetta Laurax" who married William Parsons
> >about 1732"??? ]]
> >
> >It looks really good as a match for the wife of William Parsons. You have
> >been a tremendous help. The NY connection will certainly get my
> >attention. Somehow the Van Bibbers, Laruax, Parsons connect. Let's hope
> >we can figure them out.
> >
> >Thank you so much for your help.
> >
> >Carol
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >At 11:09 PM 9/15/2006, you wrote:
> > >Thanks Carol.
> > >
> > >Yes, I also would like to get to the bottom of some of the same
> > >questions, especially the LaROUX question. I saved another post you
> > >sent about this family a day or so ago, still looking around for them
> > >all. And some posts from De-Newcas also may help.
> > >
> > > > [There is a Peter Laurax who is a good
> > > > possibility for a brother of Garturetta.
> > >
> > >It's encouraging to see the name "Garturetta Laurax" --clearly an
> > >English-type spelling of a non-English name.
> > >
> > >Do you have more info for this Peter Laurax, or a good guess?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >This here is very interesting:
> > >
> > > > William was placed under the guardianship of Henry
> > > > Van Bebber or Van Bibber after the death of the Parsons parents.
> >William
> > > > was in the guardianship of Henry Van Bebber by 1752.
> > >
> > >This Henry Van BEBBER is most likely son of Mathias (Jacobs)
> > >VB and Hermana PETERSON, making him a first cousin of the Jacob Van
> > >BEBBER whose wife was Ann "LAROUN." Mathias Van BEBBER had become a
> > >vestryman of St Stephen's (North Sassafras) Church in 1704.
> > >
> > >Mathias and his family are also interesting to me because his wife
> > >Hermana PETERSON is d/o my Adam PETERSON of Middletown, Delaware and
> > >because a sister of that henry VB's was another Hester Van BEBBER, who
> > >married John BELVILLE 1700-ca 1743 (also my ancestor), then next
> > >married Elias NAUDAIN.
> > >
> > > Adam PETERSON's son Andrew had a second wife, Hester Van BEBBER,
> > >whose father was Mathias' brother, Hendrick (Jacobsz) Van BEBBER; the
> > >jacob Van BEBBER whose wife was Ann LAROUN (LARUE?) was her older
> > >brother.
> > >
> > >And I remember PARSONS from somewhere around here but do not have
> > >anyone with that name in my database! Sooo close!
> > >
> > >I have also notes about several LaRUEs who married members of the Van
> > >SANDT families of Bucks County PA, some of whom might have come down
> > >to Delaware/Maryland.
> > >
> > >These are **preliminary notes** in my to-do file:
> > >
> > >Rachel van Sandt (prob born around 1700), d/o Stoffel van Sandt &
> > >Rachel Corssen, married a Lewis LaRUE, probably bucks County PA;
> > >
> > >Aaltje (Alice) van Sandt (prob born around 1700), another d/o Stoffel
> > >van Sandt & Rachel Corssen, married a Samuel LaRue
> > >
> > >Rebecca van Sandt d/o Jacobus van Sandt & Rebecca Vandergrift married
> > >on 6 October 1743, Bucks County PA, to Isaac LaRue;
> > >
> > > ... I have NFI on any of these here yet.
> > >
> > >Have you seen the bapts of children of Bartholomeus Le Roux and
> > >Geertruyd van Rollegom? (see below). I don't know who these children
> > >may have married, nor where they might have moved, but I found these
> > >interesting especially in view of the "John Lerount" whom Ellen W had
> > >found was a mariner in the 1690's, master of the pink, "Richmond" of
> > >London.
> > >Peter LEROUX was also a mariner.
> > >(Ellen posted that to DE-Newcas-list)
> > >
> > >Isabell Tuell Coburn posted about a Peter LeROUX, son of Pierre &
> > >Alida VRYMAN, b c1700, new Rochelle NY, must have lived in/near St
> > >George's Hundred, DE; had dau Lydia, who married James McDONOUGH (I
> > >don't know the date but early seventeenth century I think).
> > >
> > >James McDONOUGH of "The Trap" near Middletown Delaware, I believe.
> > >
> > >I am starting to think the Peter LEROUX is probably the right person
> > >to be father of "Ann LAROUN" but look at these marriages and baptisms
> > >from the New York Dutch Reform Church:
> > >
> > >Marriages --these LeROUX both of England:
> > >1688 16 Dec; Bartholomeus Le Roux, jm van London; Geertruyd van
> > >Rollegom, jd van N. Yorck, beyde wonende alhier
> > >and
> > >1692 28 Aug; Pieter LeRoux, jm, Uyt Oudt Engelt; Alida Vryman, jd, van
> > >N. Albanien, beyde wonende alheir
> > >
> > > Pieter LeRoux and Alida Vryman baptize in NY Dutch church:
> > >1704 Apr 16; Pieter Laroe [LeRoux], Alida Thomasse Vrymans; Geerthruy;
> > >Jeramia Tothill, Geerthruy Van Rollegom
> > >
> > >[[were there other children of Peter and Alida?? & if so, where??]]
> > >
> > >Also, Bartolomeus Le Roux and Geertruyd baptize in NY Dutch church:
> > >
> > >~Charles: 1689 Dec 22; Bartholomeusse Roux, Geertruyd Van Rollegom;
> > >Charles; Sponsors: Jan Joosten Van Rollegom, Tryntie Jans
> > >
> > >~Jan: 1691 Nov 01; Bartholemus Le Roux, Geertruyd Van Rollegom; Jan;
> > >Jan Joosten, Aefje Lucas
> > >[[this Jan probablly d/y --see 1695 child]]
> > >
> > >~Rachel: 1693 Apr 30; Bartholemeus Le Roux, Geertruydt Van Rollegom;
> > >Rachel; Nicolaes Gerritszen, Maria Van Rollegom
> > >
> > >~Jan: 1695 Apr 14; Bartholemeus le Roux, Geertruyt Van Rollegom; Jan;
> > >Pieter le Roux, Alida Thomas
> > >[[the first Jan probablly d/y... this Jan probably became "John"]]
> > >
> > >~Tryntje: 1697 Jun 04; Bartholomeus Laroux, Geertruy Van Rollegom;
> > >Tryntje; Tobias Stoutenburg & wife Anna [Van Rollegom]
> > >[[Tryntje probably aka Catherina]]
> > >
> > >~Jacobus: 1699 Jul 02; Bartholemus Laroux, Geertruyt Van Rollegom;
> > >Jacobus; Jacobus Van Rollegom & wife Lidia [Derkins]
> > > [[probably aka Jacob and maybe later, "James"]]
> > >
> > >~Anna: 1701 May 18; Bartholomeus Laroux, Geertruyt Van Rollegom; Anna;
> > >Tobias Stoutenburg, Judith Ravensteyn
> > >[[probably d/y; see next]]
> > >
> > >~Anna: 1703 Mar 28; Bartholomeus Laroux, Geertruy Van Rollegom; Anna;
> > >Pieter Stoutenburg, Judith Ravensteyn
> > >
> > >~Geertruy: 1705 Feb 14; Bartholomeus Le Roux, Geertruy Van Rollegom;
> > >Geertruy; Hendericus Van der Spiegel & wife Tryntie Stoutenburg
> > >[[can she be your "Garturetta Laurax" who married William Parsons
> > >about 1732"??? ]]
> > >
> > >~Jaquemyntje: 1707 Aug 10; Bartholomeus Laroux, Geertruy Van Rollegom;
> > >Jaquemyntje; Iede Myer, Catharina Rollegom wid
> > >
> > >~Bartholomeus: 1710 Jun 18; Bartholomeus Leroux, Geertruy Van
> > >Rollegom; Bartholomeus; Charel Leroux jr, Rachel Leroux jd
> > >[[Sponsors, who is Charel (Charles??) --JUNIOR??, son of what
> > >Charles/Charel? -or is this Bartolomeus' son who was b. 1689 --and
> > >Rachel of 1693?? ]]
> > >
> > >These records have been annotated and would need looking up from
> > >Samuel Purple's book or the NYGBR records where I think they also
> > >are... these came from an online database.
> > >But this family maybe could use looking into --I just extracted these
> > >and have NO clue what became of this family.
> > >
> > >So does any of this help??
> > >
> > >Carol, how can I help you more about the Van BEBBERs?? I don't profess
> > >to be the worlds expert but have done a lot of work recently in the
> > >earlier emigrants to the colonies. I have a decent tree constructed
> > >here; needs much yet in church records but the structure is good to
> > >excellent. Do let me know.
> > >
> > >I hope someone can help us more with the LaRUEs!
> > >
> > >Also I still need church records for a death/burial of Hendrick Jacobs
> > >or Jacobsen Van BEBBER, who would have been the uncle of the one who
> > >was a guardian of William PARSONS. The death year for this Hendrick
> > >Van BEBBER is 1733.
> > >
> > >Thanks again very much,
> > >Liz J
> > >
> > >
> > >On 9/15/06, Carol <> wrote:
> > > > Liz and others:
> > > >
> > > > I'm also interested in this family--especially the Ann Laroun. I feel
> >it
> > > > may be Ann Laurax and a relative of Garturetta Laurax who married
> >William
> > > > Parsons about 1732. I am trying to find Jehu PARSONS s/o William and
> > > > Garturetta Laurax Parsons. [There is a Peter Laurax who is a good
> > > > possibility for a brother of Garturetta. Peter married Christiana Van
> > > > Bibber. These families appear to be closely linked.]
> > > >
> > > > Jehu appears in the birth records of St. Stephens Parish Church in
>Cecil
> > > > Co., Maryland, along with his brother William Parsons. Jehu or Jehue
> >was
> > > > b. 30 Jan 1736/37 and William b. 15 Sept 1737. I have not been able
>to
> > > > find more about Jehu but William was placed under the guardianship of
> >Henry
> > > > Van Bebber or Van Bibber after the death of the Parsons parents.
> >William
> > > > was in the guardianship of Henry Van Bebber by 1752. There was a
> >William
> > > > PARSONS mentioned in 1760 as not paying his taxes. In 1768 a "John"
> > > > Parsons owed debts but was out of the county. I'm thinking this John
> >could
> > > > be my missing Jehu.
> > > >
> > > > If anyone has information on these Parsons boys or the Van Bebber and
> > > > Laroux families, I would be most appreciative of any assistance in
> >helping
> > > > to find what happened to them.
> > > >
> > > > Carol
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At 06:47 PM 9/15/2006, you wrote:
> > > > >Could someone have a look:
> > > > >
> > > > >I am searching for a record of the death date or burial date and
>place
> > > > >for Hendrick (Henry) VAN BEBBER (VAN BIBBER). He was Hendrick Van
> > > > >BIBBER, a widower, son of Jacob Van BEBBER and Christina (Styntie)
>van
> > > > >Dulcken (both already deceased).
> > > > >
> > > > >Hendrick Van BEBBER died in 1733, probably near Middletown, Delaware,
> > > > >but perhaps close to where the DE/MD border now is, or within Cecil
> > > > >County (MD). Two of his children ho lived nearby were Jacob (James)
> > > > >Van BIBBER, whose wife was Ann Laroun, and Hester, whose husband was
> > > > >Andrew PETERSON of Middletown, Delaware.
> > > > >
> > > > >Would a burial record appear in records of North Sassafras, St.
> > > > >Stephens Parish Church, Cecil County Maryland?
> > > > >
> > > > >It could be possible that the burial record for him was for a
>Hendrick
> > > > >Jacobs or Jacobsen. The death year is almost certainly 1733.
> > > > >
> > > > >Thanks very much,
> > > > >Liz J
> > > > >
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