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From: "Judith Burger" <>
Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY-L] Julia PARSONS/ Arnold BICKETT
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 15:57:10 -0600
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Linda, this is the way I read the Census Record. Judith

Name: Green Forrest
Age: 62 SHOULD BE AGE 42
Estimated birth year: abt 1788 SHOULD BE 1808
Birth place: Kentucky
Gender: Male
Home in 1850
(City,County,State): District 2, Marion, Kentucky
Page: 399
Roll: M432_212
10 56 56 Green Forrest, 42 M W Physician, $6500 born KY
Nancy, 37 F W born KY
Ann Eliza, 11 F W born KY
Catherine, 62 F W born Maryland (Catherine Spalding, widow/o Richard
Forrest, m/o James Green Forrest)
Elizabeth Parsons, 76, F W born Maryland (Elizabeth Forrest, d/o Zepheniah
Forrest and sister of Richard Forrest dec'd husband of Catherine (Spalding)
Forrest), Elizabeth Forrest m. Clement Parsons, Jr II
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From: "Linda Reno" <>
To: <>
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY-L] Julia PARSONS/ Arnold BICKETT


> From what I've seen on the list, it's been stated that Julia Parsons,
daughter of Clement Parsons, Jr. and Elizabeth Forrest, married Arnold
Bickett. Then we have Juliet Forrest, daughter of James Parsons and
Winifred Spalding, married to Thomas Forrest (brother of Elizabeth Forrest,
wife of Clement Parsons). Both marriages occurred in 1804 and both involved
women named Julia/Juliet. I want to be sure we've got them straight.
>
> The reason I question this is that in 1850, Elizabeth (Forrest) Parsons is
living in the following household:
>
> 1850, 2nd Dist., Marion Co., KY: Green Forrest, 62, physician, b. KY;
Nancy Forrest, 37, b. KY; Ann Eliza Forrest, 11, b. KY; Catherine Forrest,
62, b. MD; Elizabeth Parsons, 76, b. MD.
>
> Could someone identify these folks for me?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Linda Reno
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kathleen Mills Woodring
> To: Linda Reno ;
> Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 10:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY-L] Julia PARSONS/ Arnold BICKETT
>
>
>
> List
>
> There is an Inventory for this will but it only mentions:
> Parsons, Clement
> Appr: Allen Shuttlesorth, Robert H. Fogle, Peter Staton, Samuel Ryan
> Apprasal dates: 5 Apr 1830 - 25 Jun1832
> Sales occur: 2 Jun 1832 by J.G. Parsons
> However, after that inventory, a settlement record appears.
> 1 Oct 1835
> Exec: James G. and Elizabeth Parsons.
>
> Linda Reno <> wrote:
> Hi Kevin,
>
> I would suppose that Julia Ann Parsons was one of the children of
Clement
> Parsons and Elizabeth Forrest, but Clement Parsons only named 5 of his
7
> children.
> Didn't Kentucky keep track of probate records? Aside from references
I've
> seen to appraisals, I don't recall seeing postings from our KY kin on
> distributions of estates. This is a valuable tool. Is it because these
> have not appeared in any printed form? Anyway, the following is the
will of
> Clement Parsons.
>
> Will of Clement Parsons, Washington Co., KY, 1/23/1830-3/22/1830. In
the
> name of God amen. I, Clement Parsons of the County of Washington and
State
> of Kentucky, being weak in body, but of a sound mind and memory, do
make and
> ordain this my last Will and Testament, by here revoking all other
former
> Wills. First, I bequeath my soul to God, who gave it, and my body to
the
> earth, to be buried with descent burial, at the discretion of my
friends.
> 2nd I will that all my just debts be paid. 3rd I will that all my
estate of
> every kind, except such as I shall otherwise dispose of, be sold on a
credit
> of Twelve Months except my land which may be sold on such credits, as
my
> Executors, in their discretion, may think best.
>
> 4th I will my wife, Elizabeth Parsons, to have as much of my personal
> Estate, at the appreaisment, as she may think necessay for her use.
> 5th I will and bequeath to my wife, Elizabeth Parsons all the money
arising
> from the sale of my estate, except Twenty dollars, which I bequeath to
my
> son Joseph, and one hundred dollars, which I bequeath to my son Edward
and
> one hundred dollars, which I bequeath to my son Robert. This money I
> bequeath to these my sons in place of a horse, briddle and saddle. I
will,
> at the death of my wife, that fifty dollars be given to each of my
children,
> and the balance to be equally divided between my six children, and the
> children of my son Henery (sic) deceased, making, in all, Seven
shares.
> 6th I will and bequeth to my wife Elizabeth Parsons one sett of silver
> Teaspoons, one pair of silver Sugar Tongs and one silver Tea canister,
to
> have and to hold and dispose of, as she may think propper at her
death. I do
> hereby appoint my wife Executrix, and my son James G. Parsons Executor
of
> this my last Will and Testament, signed this Twenty third day of
January in
> the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and thirty. Wit.:
Benadict
> Reighley, Leonard A. Spalding.
>
> At a County Court began and held for Washington County at the
courthouse in
> Springfield 22nd day of March 1830. This last Will and Testament was
> exhibited in court and proved by the Oaths of Benadict Reighly and
Leonard
> A. Spalding subscribing witnesses thereto and ordered to be Recorded
which
> is accordingly done in book D page 466. atteste John Hughes Jr. CWC.
>
> * Clement signed either jr or sr. It's hard to determine which letter
it is.
> It's not his capital S or J and doesn't really look like a small s or
j.
> Either Jr or Sr would apply. He was Jr to his father, Clement I and Sr
to
> his nephew, Clement III. Today, Sr usually means the father and Jr the
son,
> but in those days, they used Sr to show the elder and Jr for the
younger man
> with the same name. (Clement Parsons II's Will (from web page of Mary
> Schumann:
http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/Andes/1595/clement2will.html,
> 11/12/2003).
>
> I haven't fully explored the webpage cited as a reference. You may
want to
> take a closer look and see if Julia Ann is mentioned.
>
> Clement Parsons, Jr. (husband of Elizabeth Forrest), was the son of
Clement
> Parsons who died in St. Mary's Co. in 1793. I'm not positive that
Mary,
> wife of Clement, Sr. was the mother of all of the children of Clement,
Sr.
> I believe that Mary had been married before 1760 to _____Bowles and
was the
> mother of John Bowles. Don't know for sure, but I suspect that to be
the
> case.
>
> Will of Clement Parsons, SMC, 2/18/1793-3/13/1793. Son-in-law: John
> Bowles, land in Charles County called "Amendment," 175 acres; a negro
woman
> named Henny and her child which he now has in his possession; and
everything
> else I have already given him. Everything that I have already given to
my
> children, James Parsons, Joseph Parsons, Clement Parsons and Susanna
> Molohorn, is to be brought into my estate again and to be divided
equally
> among all of my children after taking my wife's third. That is to say,
my
> children, James Parsons, John Parsons, Joseph Parsons, Clement
Parsons,
> Susanna Molohorn and Mary Parsons. The children of John Bowles are not
to
> have any part of my estate except what I have already bequeathed to
their
> father. Execs.: Sons, Joseph Parsons and Clement Parsons. Wit.:
Stephen
> Jones, Joseph Howard, Leonard Johnson. NOTE: Joseph Parsons and
Clement
> Parsons renounced executorship of this will. (St. Mary's County,
Maryland
> Wills, 1791-1802 by Linda Reno and Joann Humphries).
>
> It's obvious, at least to me, that John Bowles was an adult at the
time of
> the will of Clement Parsons and I would presume he was born prior to
1761
> based on this record:
>
> 4/19/1761: Athanasius Windder was baptized at St. Joseph's RCC. GP:
> Clement and Mary Parsons. (Catholic Families of So. MD by O'Rourke).
>
> There was a William Bowles had a wife named Mary _____and they had two
> daughters baptized first at St. Andrew's and then again at St. Francis
> Xavier RCC. The godparents of both girls were Ignatius Bowles and
Anastasia
> Cissell. There's a possibility that Clement Parsons was married to two
> different women named Mary. I just don't know at this point.
>
> Elizabeth Bowles, dau. of William and Mary, baptized at St. Andrew's
> 3/9/1776. Also baptized 4/28/1776 at St. Fr. Xav. RCC. GP: Ignatius
Bowles,
> Anastasia Cecil. (Jesuit Missions).
>
> Mary Ann Bowles, dau. of William and Mary, baptized at St. Andrew's,
> 6/1/1778. Also baptized 6/18/1778 at St. Fr. Xav. RCC. GP: Ignatius
Bowles,
> Anastasia Cecil. (Jesuit Missions).
>
> I show the ancestry of Clement Parsons (d. 1793) below.
>
> Linda Reno
>
>
>
> Ancestors of Clement Parsons
>
>
>
>
>
> Generation No. 1
>
>
>
> 1. Clement Parsons, born Bef. 1733 in St. Mary's Co., MD; died 1793
> in St. Mary's Co., MD. He was the son of 2. Cosmos Parsons. He married
(1)
> Mary Bef. 1766 in St. Mary's Co., MD. She was born Bef. 1746, and died
Aft.
> 1793.
>
>
>
> Generation No. 2
>
>
>
> 2. Cosmos Parsons, born Bef. 1688 in St. Mary's Co., MD; died 1733
> in St. George's Hundred, St. Mary's Co., MD. He was the son of 4. John
> Parsons and 5. Mary.
>
>
>
> Generation No. 3
>
>
>
> 4. John Parsons, born Bef. 1654; died 1688 in St. Mary's Co., MD.
> He married 5. Mary Bef. 1674.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kevin M. Campbell"
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 10:03 AM
> Subject: [MDSTMARY-L] Julia PARSONS/ Arnold BICKETT
>
>
> > Linda,
> > I have Julia Ann PARSONS, b. 23 mar 1804, d/o of Clement and
Elizabeth
> > [FORREST] PARSONS, m. Arnold BICKETT 5 Feb 1825.
> > Is this correct as far as you know?
> > If so, then James had a daughter named Julette (aka Juliet) (aka
Julia) b.
> > 1787, m. 1804 and that a 35 year old Clement had a Daughter the same
year
> > named Julia?
> > While we are on the subject of PARSONS what do you know of Clement's
> > father and mother?
> > Thanks,
> > Kevin
> >
> > Linda Reno wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks Judith--and also thank you for the baptismal information you
> >> posted before this.
> >>
> >> Yes, I think that this would confirm that Thomas Forrest who m.
Julia
> >> (aka Juliet) Parsons was the son of Zepheniah Forrest and Ann Mary
> >> Fenwick.
> >>
> >> I know that Julia Parsons had to be connected to Clement Parsons.
> >> Anybody know how?
> >>
> >> Linda Reno
> >>
> >>
> >
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