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From: "David Roberts" <>
Subject: Fw: [MDSTMARY-L] German John Baptist ??
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 09:44:03 -0500


> David,
>
> My husband's family lines are all German Catholic, and I have not seen
> John Baptist used in any form (Johann plus something like "Baptist") for
> any of them.

List:

Just a part of a private e-mail I received from a list member who also
doesn't find the name being used in her husband's German Catholic ancestral
lines. Same as what I found in my Rheinland ancestors.

We have found it both in English Catholics [Maryland] and French Catholics
[Canada]. Is the name used by Spanish, Portuguese, Italian, Polish, or Dutch
Catholics ?

I was asking just the other day, where will I next meet John the Baptist ?
Well, I was gettimg the most recent additions to the National Register of
Historic Places off the National Park Service's Internet set .... and what
shows up ? A Roman Catholic church in St. John the Baptist Parish, Louisiana
!! - just added to the National Register.

Anyway, what might the term "John the Baptist" look like in German ? I got
out my old Martin Luther Bible.

Mark 6 - the Story of the Beheading of John the Baptist.

Mark 6:24
NIV - "She went out and said to her mother, "What shall I ask for ?" "The
head of John the Baptist," she answered.

Luther - "Sie gieng hinaus, und sprach zu ihrer Mutter: Was soll ich bitten
? Die sprach: Das Haupt Johannis, des Taeufers."

Mark 6:25
NIV - " At once the girl hurried in to the king with the request: "I want
you to give me right now the head of John the Baptist on a platter."

Luther - " Und sie gieng bald hinein mit Eile zum Koenige, hat und sprach:
Ich will, dass du mir gebest jetzt so bald auf einer Schuessel das Haupt
Johannis, des Taeufers."

I'm not 100% sure I transcribed the old German type into our "Roman" letters
properly; some are very hard to read. Some have a tiny "e" over the vowels,
as in "Ko(e)nige" that, I guess would be the "umlat." I wrote that as "oe"
in the word for King.

TA(E)UFERS ... would be the word for "Baptist."
I did not see any Johannus Taefers or anything like it in my Deimel lines in
the Rheinland.

Anybody else with a German Catholic line mixed into your Southern Maryland
Catholic lines ? I'd assume that those in Indiana [esp.] or Missouri might
have a mixture of Maryland & German Catholic lines ?

Anyway, the name would look something like Taufers/Taeufers.

David



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