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From: The Goughs <>
Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Vize Vs. Weiss(e) or Wise
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 21:08:42 -0500
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Dave, thanks for the response. It is a long shot but I check the
Weiss lists to see if I get any hits.



David Lee wrote:

>KY marriages before 1850
>VICE marriages
>Bath Co. 30
>Boone Co. 1
>Campbell Co. 1
>Clark Co. 3
>Estill Co. 1
>Madison Co. 1
>Montgomery Co. 1
>Nicholas Co. 1
>Pendleton Co. 1
>But only 1 Vise in whole state.
>and no Weiss.
>
>Interesting Huh!
> Dave
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "David Roberts" <>
>To: <>; <>
>Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 7:19 PM
>Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Vize Vs. Weiss(e) or Wise
>
>
>
>
>>Weiss - which would sound like "Vice" - is the German word for "white"
>>
>>When Germans [Christians] or German Jews attempted to "Americanize" their
>>name, they had two options: translate to WHITE or go along with the sound
>>and modify to WISE. I doubt many wanted to be "Mr. Vice" !!!! :o)
>>
>>This is the problem with mid/late 19th and early 20th century European
>>Immigrant genealogy. What was the name in the "Old Country" and what did
>>the
>>name become in the United States ? By the way, names were NOT changed at
>>Ellis Island !
>>
>>My grandmother's name: HARBACH was "Har- bock" in Germany but became "Har-
>>back" here. Spelling remained the same, however.
>>
>>David
>>
>>David Roberts
>>Hollywood, MD
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "The Goughs" <>
>>To: <>
>>Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 12:14 AM
>>Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Vize Vs. Weiss(e) or Wise
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>Jerry, this is just a hunch. I am Franco-Prussian-German on my
>>>mother's side and it sounds very much like a German name to me.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>
>>>Jerry L. Clark wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Mike Gough Stated:
>>>>
>>>>William T. Vize came from Pennsylvania. I am betting that he was
>>>>German and his name was originally Weiss(e) which would be pronounced
>>>>approximately Vize.
>>>>
>>>>Does anyone have additional information.
>>>>
>>>>Mike
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Is it possibly as mike Gough suggests that Vize is actually Weiss(e)
>>>>And could that translate into Wise?
>>>>
>>>>Would not be 1st time spellings mess us up to the point we don't make
>>>>the
>>>>connections.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Jeremiah Brothers - W: 30 Jun 1815 P: 11 Sep 1815
>>>>To be buried at Roman Catholic Church Cemetery
>>>>Son Samuel [underage] all of estate but if he should die without heirs,
>>>>estate to
>>>>
>>>>go to James Brewer's heirs
>>>>To Stephen Theodore Badin money for church purposes, also Rev Chas.
>>>>
>>>>
>>Nerinska
>>
>>
>>>>and Rev Bishop Benedict Joseph Falget
>>>>To John Phillip's heirs
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Ex: James Brewer and William Howard
>>>>Wit: Henry Burch, William Howard, Thomas Livers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>***Jeremiah Brothers married Elizabeth Henry. He was s/o Cornelius
>>>>
>>>>
>>Brothers
>>
>>
>>>>and Elizabeth Thompson.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Will Book C Pg 6
>>>>
>>>>William Peak - Will - W: 1 Jul 1816 P: 8 Jul 1816
>>>>"All my estate equally divided among my children now living and my
>>>>grandchildren to have the part of their deceased parent"
>>>>To Bartholomew Smith the plot where he now lives
>>>>Wit: William Howard, Hezekiah Hagan, William Pike
>>>>Pg 16
>>>>
>>>>William Peak Sr - Inventory - 22 Jul 1816 - 9 Sep 1816
>>>>Appraisers: John Lancaster, John Phillips, James Howard
>>>>
>>>>Washington Co Will Book D Pg 82
>>>>
>>>>William Pike - Will - W: 12 Oct 1824 P: 8 NOV 1824
>>>>
>>>>To be buried at Holy Cross
>>>>Sons, Joseph, John, Barnard, Ignatius, and Stephen
>>>>Daus, Anastatia Hagan, Mary Pike, Ann Pike, Martha Pike and Eliza Pike
>>>>Ex: Sons Barnard and Ignatius
>>>>Wit: Proctor B Rowe, William Howard, John X Pike. Signed William
>>>>
>>>>
>>Pike
>>
>>
>>>>Washington Co Deed Book D Pg 274
>>>>14 Mar 1796 - Deed of Bond of Richard Thurman of Wash Co., to Thomas
>>>>
>>>>
>>Doran
>>
>>
>>>>of Wash Co.,
>>>>for 100 pounds for a tract of land on D. Doran's Run, and bounded by
>>>>Muldraugh's preemption and
>>>>the river [unnamed].
>>>>Signed: Richard Thurman
>>>>Witnesses: William Howard, John G Harding
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
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