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From: "David Lee" <>
Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Charles Payne & Monica Cissell
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 12:50:19 -0600
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Question on Cissell>Howard marriages.
Was Charles Howard the son of John Howard Will Dec 9, 1802--Sep 12, 1803,
Nelson Co. or James Howard Will Feb 15, 1802--July 1803, Washington Co.?
Both had a son Charles.
The one in Nelson Co. made son-in-law Walter Seslee, husband of dau Sarah
his exec.
Sarah Howard m. Matthew Cissell 17 Mar 1895 in Washington Co.
Charles Howard m. Mary Cissell, 22 Dec 1796, Nelson Co.
John in Nelson's will showed dau Mary Corby.

I am totally confused!
Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: "The Goughs" <>
To: <>
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 11:22 PM
Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Charles Payne & Monica Cissell


> Linda, you can have whatever I have. Where do you what to start?
>
> Mike
>
> Linda Reno wrote:
>
>>Reminder--for those families who moved west, my files are most likely
>>incomplete as to their children, etc. It might help if all would bring me
>>up to date!
>>
>>Linda Reno
>>
>>Descendants of Charles Payne
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Generation No. 1
>>
>>
>>1. CHARLES2 PAYNE (HENRY1) was born Bef. 1685 in St. Mary's Co., MD, and
>>died 1717 in St. Mary's Co., MD. He married ANN HOWARD Bef. 1705 in St.
>>Mary's Co., MD, daughter of PETER HOWARD. She was born Bef. 1690 in St.
>>Mary's Co., MD, and died Bef. 1717 in St. Mary's Co., MD.
>>
>>
>>Children of CHARLES PAYNE and ANN HOWARD are:
>>
>>2. i. CHARLES3 PAYNE, JR., b. 1705, St. Mary's Co., MD; d. Bef. 25 Aug
>>1753,
>>St. Mary's Co., MD.
>>
>>3. ii. LEONARD PAYNE, b. Bef. 1717, St. Mary's Co., MD; d. 1775, St.
>>Mary's
>>Co., MD.
>>
>>4. iii. PETER PAYNE, b. Bef. 1717, St. Mary's Co., MD; d. Bef. 16 Feb
>>1772,
>>St. Mary's Co., MD.
>>
>>iv. MARY PAYNE, b. Bef. 1717, St. Mary's Co., MD; d. Aft. 1717.
>>
>>
>>
>>Generation No. 2
>>
>>
>>2. CHARLES3 PAYNE, JR. (CHARLES2, HENRY1) was born 1705 in St. Mary's Co.,
>>MD, and died Bef. 25 Aug 1753 in St. Mary's Co., MD. He married ELIZABETH
>>CISSELL Bef. 1716 in St. Mary's Co., MD, daughter of WILLIAM CISSELL and
>>JOYNER. She was born Bef. 1701 in St. Mary's Co., MD, and died Aft. 1742
>>in
>>St. Mary's Co., MD.
>>
>>
>>Children of CHARLES PAYNE and ELIZABETH CISSELL are:
>>
>>5. i. RICHARD4 PAYNE, b. Bef. 1730, St. Mary's Co., MD; d. Aft. 1775, St.
>>Mary's Co., MD.
>>
>>6. ii. CHARLES PAYNE III, b. Bef. 1732, St. Mary's Co., MD; d. Aft. 1814,
>>Pottinger Creek, KY.
>>
>>
>>
>>3. LEONARD3 PAYNE (CHARLES2, HENRY1) was born Bef. 1717 in St. Mary's Co.,
>>MD, and died 1775 in St. Mary's Co., MD. He married MONICA WIMSATT Bef.
>>1747
>>in St. Mary's Co., MD, daughter of JOHN WIMSATT and ANN MEAKINS. She was
>>born Bef. 1732 in St. Mary's Co., MD, and died Bef. 1775 in St. Mary's
>>Co.,
>>MD.
>>
>>
>>Children of LEONARD PAYNE and MONICA WIMSATT are:
>>
>>7. i. LEONARD4 PAYNE, JR., b. Bef. 1747, St. Mary's Co., MD; d. 1800, St.
>>Mary's Co., MD.
>>
>>8. ii. JOHN PAYNE, b. Bef. 1749, St. Mary's Co., MD; d. Unknown, St.
>>Mary's
>>Co., MD.
>>
>>9. iii. RAPHAEL PAYNE, b. Bef. 1750, St. Mary's Co., MD; d. Aft. 1790.
>>
>>10. iv. VINCENT PAYNE, b. Bef. 1751, St. Mary's Co., MD; d. Aft. 1800, St.
>>Mary's Co., MD.
>>
>>11. v. ANN PAYNE, b. Bef. 1753, St. Mary's Co., MD; d. Aft. 1799,
>>Washington
>>Co., KY.
>>
>>12. vi. PRISCILLA PAYNE, b. 1753, St. Mary's Co., MD; d. Aft. 1779.
>>
>>13. vii. MARY PAYNE, b. Bef. 1754, St. Mary's Co., MD; d. Bet. 1771 -
>>1774,
>>St. Mary's Co., MD.
>>
>>viii. HENRY BERRYMAN PAYNE, b. 1756, St. Mary's Co., MD; d. 1781, St.
>>Mary's
>>Co., MD.
>>
>>ix. ELIZABETH PAYNE, b. 1758, St. Mary's Co., MD; d. Aft. 1785, Nelson
>>Co.,
>>KY; m. JOHN BOWLES III, 11 Jan 1776, St. Fr. Xav. RCC, Compton, St. Mary's
>>Co., MD; b. Bet. 1748 - 1753, St. Mary's Co., MD; d. Aft. 1785, Pottinger
>>Creek, Nelson Co., KY.
>>
>>x. JEREMIAH PAYNE, b. 1760, St. Mary's Co., MD; d. Aft. 1775.
>>
>>14. xi. MONICA PAYNE, b. 13 Mar 1763, St. Mary's Co., MD; d. 03 Feb 1837,
>>Perry Co., MO.
>>
>>
>>
>>4. PETER3 PAYNE (CHARLES2, HENRY1) was born Bef. 1717 in St. Mary's Co.,
>>MD,
>>and died Bef. 16 Feb 1772 in St. Mary's Co., MD. He married SABINA Bef.
>>1739
>>in St. Mary's Co., MD. She was born Bef. 1724, and died Aft. 1772 in St.
>>Mary's Co., MD.
>>
>>
>>Child of PETER PAYNE and SABINA is:
>>
>>i. PETER4 PAYNE, JR., b. Bef. 1739, St. Mary's Co., MD; d. Aft. 1759.
>>
>>
>>
>>Generation No. 3
>>
>>
>>5. RICHARD4 PAYNE (CHARLES3, CHARLES2, HENRY1) was born Bef. 1730 in St.
>>Mary's Co., MD, and died Aft. 1775 in St. Mary's Co., MD. He married (1)
>>PRISCILLA WIMSATT Bef. 1754 in St. Mary's Co., MD, daughter of JOHN
>>WIMSATT
>>and ANN MEAKINS. She was born Bef. 1734 in St. Mary's Co., MD, and died
>>Bef.
>>1767 in St. Mary's Co., MD. He married (2) ANN MEAKINS 1767 in St. Mary's
>>Co., MD, daughter of WILLIAM MEAKINS and MARY MILLS. She was born Bef.
>>1730
>>in St. Mary's Co., MD, and died Aft. 1767.
>>
>>
>>Children of RICHARD PAYNE and PRISCILLA WIMSATT are:
>>
>>i. JOHN BARTON5 PAYNE, b. 1754, St. Mary's Co., MD.
>>
>>ii. FRANCIS EXHUERUS PAYNE, b. 1756, St. Mary's Co., MD.
>>
>>iii. JAMES PAYNE, b. 1759, St. Mary's Co., MD; d. Bet. 1810 - 1820, St.
>>Mary's Co., MD.
>>
>>
>>
>>6. CHARLES4 PAYNE III (CHARLES3, CHARLES2, HENRY1) was born Bef. 1732 in
>>St.
>>Mary's Co., MD, and died Aft. 1814 in Pottinger Creek, KY. He married
>>MONICA
>>CISSELL Bef. 1763 in St. Mary's Co., MD, daughter of ARTHUR CISSELL and
>>MARY. She was born 1732 in St. Mary's Co., MD, and died Aft. 1785 in
>>Pottinger Creek, KY.
>>
>>
>>Children of CHARLES PAYNE and MONICA CISSELL are:
>>
>>i. IGNATIUS5 PAYNE, b. Bef. 1763, St. Mary's Co., MD; d. Aft. 1817, KY; m.
>>ELEANOR HAGAN, 15 Oct 1814, Nelson Co., KY; b. Bef. 1794; d. Aft. 1817,
>>KY.
>>
>>ii. ANN PAYNE, b. 1767, St. Mary's Co., MD; d. Aft. 1785.
>>
>>iii. MARY PAYNE, b. Bef. 1774, St. Mary's Co., MD; d. Aft. 1785.
>>
>>
>>
>>7. LEONARD4 PAYNE, JR. (LEONARD3, CHARLES2, HENRY1) was born Bef. 1747 in
>>St. Mary's Co., MD, and died 1800 in St. Mary's Co., MD. He married MARY
>>Bef. 01 Dec 1767 in St. Mary's Co., MD. She was born Bef. 1727 in St.
>>Mary's
>>Co., MD, and died Aft. 1790 in St. Mary's Co., MD.
>>
>>
>>Children of LEONARD PAYNE and MARY are:
>>
>>i. FRANCIS5 PAYNE, b. 1767, St. Mary's Co., MD.
>>
>>ii. FRANCES PAYNE, b. 1772, St. Mary's Co., MD.
>>
>>
>>
>>8. JOHN4 PAYNE (LEONARD3, CHARLES2, HENRY1) was born Bef. 1749 in St.
>>Mary's
>>Co., MD, and died Unknown in St. Mary's Co., MD. He married (1) HOWARD
>>Bef.
>>1769 in St. Mary's Co., MD, daughter of THOMAS HOWARD and ANASTASIA. She
>>was
>>born Bef. 1753 in St. Mary's Co., MD. He married (2) BINNIE STEWART 11 Dec
>>1769 in St. Fr. Xav. RCC, Compton, St. Mary's Co., MD. She was born Bef.
>>1754, and died Aft. 1769 in St. Mary's Co., MD.
>>
>>
>>Child of JOHN PAYNE and HOWARD is:
>>
>>i. ANASTASIA5 PAYNE, b. Bef. 1769, St. Mary's Co., MD; d. Aft. 1773.
>>
>>
>>Children of JOHN PAYNE and BINNIE STEWART are:
>>
>>ii. PHILIP5 PAYNE, b. Bef. 1766, St. Mary's Co., MD; d. Aft. 1810.
>>
>>iii. SUSANNA PAYNE, b. Bet. 1770 - 1774, St. Mary's Co., MD; d. Aft. 1775.
>>
>>iv. MARY PAYNE, b. Bet. 1770 - 1774, St. Mary's Co., MD; d. Aft. 1775.
>>
>>
>>
>>9. RAPHAEL4 PAYNE (LEONARD3, CHARLES2, HENRY1) was born Bef. 1750 in St.
>>Mary's Co., MD, and died Aft. 1790. He married TABITHA Bef. 1772 in St.
>>Mary's Co., MD. She was born Bef. 1756 in St. Mary's Co., MD, and died
>>Aft.
>>1777.
>>
>>
>>Children of RAPHAEL PAYNE and TABITHA are:
>>
>>i. ELIZABETH5 PAYNE, b. 1772, St. Mary's Co., MD; d. Aft. 1800; m. JOSEPH
>>THOMPSON, Bef. 1800, St. Mary's Co., MD; b. Bef. 1772, St. Mary's Co., MD;
>>d. Aft. 1800.
>>
>>ii. SARAH MARY PAYNE, b. 1775, St. Mary's Co., MD; d. Aft. 1827, St.
>>Mary's
>>Co., MD; m. (1) ZACHARIAH CLARKE, Bet. 1790 - 1794, St. Mary's Co., MD; b.
>>Bet. 1766 - 1774, St. Mary's Co., MD; d. Bet. 1810 - 1815, St. Mary's Co.,
>>MD; m. (2) JOSHUA NEALE, 28 Mar 1815, St. Mary's Co., MD; b. Bef. 1775,
>>St.
>>Mary's Co., MD; d. Aft. 1827, St. Mary's Co., MD.
>>
>>iii. ANASTASIA PAYNE, b. 1777, St. Mary's Co., MD.
>>
>>
>>
>>10. VINCENT4 PAYNE (LEONARD3, CHARLES2, HENRY1) was born Bef. 1751 in St.
>>Mary's Co., MD, and died Aft. 1800 in St. Mary's Co., MD. He married MARY
>>ANN Bef. 1771 in St. Mary's Co., MD. She was born Bef. 1755 in St. Mary's
>>Co., MD, and died Aft. 1771.
>>
>>
>>Child of VINCENT PAYNE and MARY ANN is:
>>
>>i. JOSEPH5 PAYNE, b. 1771, St. Mary's Co., MD; d. Aft. 1816.
>>
>>
>>
>>11. ANN4 PAYNE (LEONARD3, CHARLES2, HENRY1) was born Bef. 1753 in St.
>>Mary's
>>Co., MD, and died Aft. 1799 in Washington Co., KY. She married JOHN
>>BAPTIST
>>CISSELL Abt. 1774 in St. Mary's Co., MD. He was born Bef. 1742 in St.
>>Mary's
>>Co., MD, and died Bef. 02 Mar 1799 in Washington Co., KY.
>>
>>
>>Children of ANN PAYNE and JOHN CISSELL are:
>>
>>i. MATTHEW5 CISSELL, b. 1775, St. Mary's Co., MD; d. 23 Jan 1846, St.
>>Mary,
>>Marion Co., KY; m. SARAH HOWARD, 17 Mar 1795, Washington Co., KY; b. Bef.
>>1780, St. Mary's Co., MD; d. 1837, St. Mary, Marion Co., KY.
>>
>>ii. MARY CISSELL, b. Bef. 1776; d. Aft. 1796, Nelson Co., KY; m. CHARLES
>>HOWARD, 22 Dec 1796, Nelson Co., KY; b. Bef. 1776, St. Mary's Co., MD; d.
>>Aft. 1822, Nelson Co., KY.
>>
>>iii. ROBERT CISSELL, b. 09 Nov 1777.
>>
>>iv. HENRY B. CISSELL, b. Bef. 1779; d. Aft. 1799, KY; m. ALETHIA KNOTT, 26
>>Mar 1799, Calvary, Washington Co., KY; b. Bef. 1784; d. Aft. 1799, KY.
>>
>>v. SARAH CISSELL, b. Bef. 1781; d. Aft. 1796, Washington Co., KY; m.
>>AUGUSTINE BARRON, 22 Dec 1796, Washington Co., KY.
>>
>>vi. ZACHARIAH CISSELL, b. 1784, St. Mary's Co., MD; d. 06 Jan 1855, St.
>>Mary, Marion Co., KY; m. SARAH MILES, 08 Jan 1805, Washington Co., KY; b.
>>1790, St. Mary's Co., MD; d. Aft. 1850, KY.
>>
>>vii. SYLVESTER CISSELL, b. 1788; d. Aft. 1815, Washington Co., KY; m. ANN
>>RUSSELL, 23 Oct 1809, Washington Co., KY; b. 1789, Nelson Co., KY; d. Bef.
>>1815, Washington Co., KY.
>>
>>
>>
>>12. PRISCILLA4 PAYNE (LEONARD3, CHARLES2, HENRY1) was born 1753 in St.
>>Mary's Co., MD, and died Aft. 1779. She married (1) JAMES VOWLES 19 Sep
>>1771
>>in St. Fr. Xav. RCC, Compton, St. Mary's Co., MD, son of RICHARD VOWLES
>>and
>>ANN WALTERS. He was born Bef. 1736 in St. Mary's Co., MD, and died Bet.
>>1774 - 1779 in St. Mary's Co., MD. She married (2) NEWTON Bet. 1775 - 1779
>>in St. Mary's Co., MD. He was born Bef. 1753 in St. Mary's Co., MD, and
>>died
>>Aft. 1772.
>>
>>
>>Children of PRISCILLA PAYNE and JAMES VOWLES are:
>>
>>i. SUSANNA5 VOWLES, b. 1772, St. Mary's Co., MD.
>>
>>ii. RICHARD VOWLES, b. 1774, St. Mary's Co., MD.
>>
>>
>>
>>13. MARY4 PAYNE (LEONARD3, CHARLES2, HENRY1) was born Bef. 1754 in St.
>>Mary's Co., MD, and died Bet. 1771 - 1774 in St. Mary's Co., MD. She
>>married
>>BERNARD NEWTON 11 Dec 1769 in St. Fr. Xav. RCC, Compton, St. Mary's Co.,
>>MD,
>>son of CLEMENT NEWTON. He was born Bef. 1749 in St. Mary's Co., MD, and
>>died
>>Aft. 1790 in St. Mary's Co., MD.
>>
>>
>>Child of MARY PAYNE and BERNARD NEWTON is:
>>
>>i. ELIZABETH5 NEWTON, b. 24 Jul 1771, St. Mary's Co., MD; d. Aft. 1800.
>>
>>
>>
>>14. MONICA4 PAYNE (LEONARD3, CHARLES2, HENRY1) was born 13 Mar 1763 in St.
>>Mary's Co., MD, and died 03 Feb 1837 in Perry Co., MO. She married BERNARD
>>CISSELL Bet. 1778 - 1779 in St. Mary's Co., MD, son of JAMES CISSELL and
>>ELIZABETH?. He was born 1759 in St. Mary's Co., MD, and died 04 Jul 1833
>>in
>>Perry Co., MO.
>>
>>
>>Children of MONICA PAYNE and BERNARD CISSELL are:
>>
>>i. LEWIS5 CISSELL, b. 1784, St. Mary's Co., MD; d. 07 Jun 1858, Perry Co.,
>>MO; m. ANNA MARIE MATTINGLY, 28 Jun 1814, Washington Co., KY; b. 1799,
>>Washington Co., KY; d. Aft. 1850, Perry Co., MO.
>>
>>ii. MARY ANN CISSELL, b. 1786, St. Mary's Co., MD; d. 19 Jun 1835, Perry
>>Co., MO; m. SIMON DUVALL, 31 Jan 1804, St. Genevieve, MO; b. Bef. 1786; d.
>>Aft. 1804.
>>
>>iii. CLEMENT CISSELL, b. 15 Oct 1789, Nelson Co., KY; d. 1859, Perry Co.,
>>MO; m. ANN LAYTON, 25 Sep 1810.
>>
>>iv. JOSEPH CISSELL, b. 22 Jan 1792, KY; d. 1880, Perry Co., MO; m. (1) ANN
>>MILES, 1816, St. Genevieve, MO; b. Bef. 1801; m. (2) MARY MANNING, 27 Apr
>>1835, Perry Co., MO; b. Aft. 1792.
>>
>>v. ANASTASIA CISSELL, b. Bef. 1800, St. Mary's Co., MD.
>>
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Jerry L. Clark" <>
>>To: <>
>>Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 2:56 PM
>>Subject: [MDSTMARY] Charles Payne & Monica Cissell
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>Linda,
>>>
>>>Could you give us The children of Charles Payne and Monica Cissell?
>>>
>>>
>>>Can you also give us the parents of Charles Payne and his siblings going
>>>backwards to Charles Payne I
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Behalf Of Linda Reno
>>>Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 10:20 PM
>>>To:
>>>Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Leonard Payne & Monica == Wimsatt or Cissell?
>>>
>>>As shown below, Monica Cissell married Charles Payne III. Monica was the
>>>daughter of Arthur Cissell and wife, Mary. There is no proof that Mary's
>>>maiden name was Doyne. Previously Mary Doyne, daughter of Ethelbert
>>>Doyne
>>>and Jane Sanders was said to have married Arthur Cissell. Not true.
>>>Mary
>>>Doyne married Roger Smith of Charles County.
>>>
>>>1/20/1752: Admin. accts. of Thomas Sanders, Charles Co. Sureties:
>>>Alextius
>>>
>>>Simms, Richard Johnson. Payments to (among others): Roger Smith who
>>>married
>>>
>>>Mary Doyne, dau. of Ethelbert Doyne (deceased was admin. de bonis non).
>>>Payments to (their portions in equal amounts): John Sanders, Mary
>>>Sanders,
>>>Sarah. Legatees: Mary Sanders. Representatives: John (at age); Molly
>>>(at
>>>age); Sarah (at age); Ann Sanders (at age); Henrietta Sanders (aged 15);
>>>Thomas Matthews Sanders (aged 13). Exec: William Sanders.
>>>
>>>Linda Reno
>>>
>>>
>>>
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