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From: SY <>
Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Williamson Bruce and the Williamson clan
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:53:49 -0500
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Thanks John. I could see from what Linda sent the Guibert marriage.

I still see more Gody relation with Sarah than Bagley. My interest in
Sarah came because of the naming Williamson Bruce. Unfortunately I
haven't found a whole lot on Samuel Williamson and clan. I'm sure he
is tied somehow to my Branson/? family but not sure how. I still
suspect it may be from Edward Barber's wife Sibella.


On Jul 27, 2009, at 9:13 AM, John Dobricky wrote:

> Hi. Sorry for the belated response. Sarah Muir was Sarah (Neale)
> Muir--daughter of James Neale (d. circa 1750--53) and Elizabeth
> Guibert. She was the first wife of Dr. William Muir. She died and
> his second wife was Elizabeth Locke.
>
> Sarah (Bagley?) Guibert Bruce Yates seems to have been an interesting
> person. I have a lot of information about her--of course, not here.
> I can send it if you would like.
>
> Anyway, she did sell a slave to her grandson, James Neale (b. circa
> 1750 and d. in SMC circa 1810-11) several years before her death.
> And, you are correct, she did not mention him in her Will. John D.
>
> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 1:44 PM, SY<> wrote:
>> Did you find the grandchildren Sarah Muir or Sarah Locke and
>> determine
>> who their parents were? I see that online Sarah is listed as the
>> mother of a Elizabeth and Ann Guibert. What I'm not seeing is any
>> documents, references, etc that proves that the Ann Jordan, wife of
>> James Jordan in her will is maiden name Guibert.
>>
>> Isn't it strange if Sarah was the mother of Elizabeth Guibert who
>> married James Neale that neither Elizabeth nor any of the Neale
>> children were mentioned in her will?
>>
>> I must be missing something to tie this all together.
>>
>> On Jul 17, 2009, at 11:50 AM, John Dobricky wrote:
>>
>>> Hi again. Sarah Gody married, according to other records, Richard
>>> Mastin. There was also a Sarah Brooks/Brooke (daughter of John
>>> Brookes/Brooke) who married Joseph Timms ("Timeus") of Charles
>>> County,
>>> MD. I don't have the records with me here but they are all out
>>> there.
>>>
>>> Since Sarah (Bagley) Guibert Bruce Yates (she died in Charles
>>> County,
>>> MD, in 1785 although her Will was probated in St. Mary's County)is
>>> an
>>> ancestress of mine, I have been particularly interested in her. I
>>> am
>>> not sure what the connection between Sarah (Bagley?) Guibert Bruce
>>> Yates and the daughters of Matthew Gody were. It is worth noting
>>> that
>>> Sarah (Gody?) Mastin was the mother of the Rose Mastin who witnessed
>>> the Will of Sarah (Bagley?) Guibert Bruce Yates.
>>>
>>> There was also a connection to the Wilson/Bailey family of Charles
>>> and
>>> St. Mary's Counties. It is too complicated to go into right now. I
>>> have extensive files at home if you would like more information.
>>> John
>>> D.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 11:36 AM, SY<> wrote:
>>>> Thank you, John. Here is what I'm noticing.
>>>>
>>>> Robert Yates in his 1756 will says "That Sarah and Cloe Goady,
>>>> minor
>>>> children under my care, be carried to court to have guardians
>>>> appointed and their estate paid off.'
>>>>
>>>> Payment from his estate 1759: Sarah & Chloe Godys paid to their
>>>> guardian Sarah Yates
>>>>
>>>> Sarah and Chloe Gody were children of Matthew Gody that died in
>>>> 1753.
>>>> Payments were made to Robert Yates and Richard Mastin out of his
>>>> estate.
>>>>
>>>> Richard Mastin died in 1754. His wife was Sarah born 1713/15.
>>>> Their
>>>> daughter Rose was born 1750 and witnessed the will of Sarah Yates.
>>>>
>>>> William "Cody" died in 1743. His administrator was Matthew Gody
>>>> and
>>>> representatives were Sarah Cody, Samuel Cody and John Cody (son of
>>>> Henry Cody who died in 1738). Richard Mastin received payment from
>>>> the estate.
>>>>
>>>> William was married to Margaret Brooks, daughter of John Brooks
>>>> (see
>>>> his 1712 will). In 1749 the NOK of John Brooks is Samuel and
>>>> Matthew
>>>> Gody.
>>>>
>>>> It seems possible that the Sarah that married Richard Mastin was
>>>> Sarah
>>>> Gody, daughter of William.
>>>>
>>>> So that Sarah Yates taking in the orphaned Gody children of Matthew
>>>> Gody and then having Rose Mastin witness her will when Rose's
>>>> Mother
>>>> was possibly a Gody makes me wonder.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not really finding any solid records of the grandchildren of
>>>> Sarah
>>>> Yates - John and William Bruce or Sarah Muir or Sarah Locke that is
>>>> helping.
>>>>
>>>> Sharon
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 17, 2009, at 7:39 AM, John Dobricky wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi. If you search the Archives of this list, you will find some
>>>>> discussions of this family. My understanding (as per Linda Reno
>>>>> who
>>>>> can, I'm sure, provide more information) is that John Bruce (d.
>>>>> 1737)
>>>>> had the following wives:
>>>>> 1) Judith (Townley) Warren;
>>>>> 2) ________ Briscoe;
>>>>> 3) Sarah (Bagley?) Guibert (possible daughter of Ralph Bagley I--
>>>>> as
>>>>> well as Widow of Thomas Guibert (d. 1728-29 in SMC).
>>>>>
>>>>> After the death of John Bruce (d. 1737), Sarah (Bagley?) Guibert
>>>>> Bruce
>>>>> married (3) Robert Yates (d. 1756 in Charles County, MD).
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think John Bruce (d. 1737) was ever married to a
>>>>> Williamson.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thomas Guibert (d. 1729--son of Joshua Guibert I (d. 1713) and his
>>>>> first wife, Elizabeth Barber) and Sarah (Bagley?) are my ancestors
>>>>> through their daughter, Elizabeth Guibert whose first husband was
>>>>> James Neale (d. circa 1750--son of Roswell Neale and (his second
>>>>> wife)
>>>>> Elizabeth Blackistone)).
>>>>>
>>>>> See ya' John Dobricky
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 8:01 AM, SY<> wrote:
>>>>>> I am trying to find all the parts of the family Williamson. The
>>>>>> earliest record I have is the probate in 1694 where Edward Barber
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> godfather to 2 daughters named Mary and Martha of Samuel
>>>>>> Williamson.
>>>>>> I can't find any more information on what happened to these
>>>>>> girls.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I then have Eleanor Williamson who married (as his second wife)
>>>>>> Capt
>>>>>> John Briscoe born circa 1678.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John Bruce died in 1737. It appears he married first Judith
>>>>>> Townley
>>>>>> and then Sarah Williamson. I read there was evidence that
>>>>>> Townley
>>>>>> Bruce from his first marriage and Williamson Bruce from his
>>>>>> second
>>>>>> marriage were l/2 brothers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Before 1741, guardianship of Williamson Bruce was given to his
>>>>>> "uncle"
>>>>>> John Briscoe. Although Eleanor Williamson was John's step-
>>>>>> mother,
>>>>>> this indicates that perhaps Eleanor and Sarah were sisters.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Capt John Briscoe dies in 1741 and his wife the former Mary
>>>>>> Hanson
>>>>>> goes to court and says in 1741 she doesn't want to be responsible
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> Williamson or for his estate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> June 1742: Williamson Bruce, formerly under the guardianship of
>>>>>> Mr.
>>>>>> John Briscoe, late of Charles County, dec'd, on his motion to
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> Court, is admitted to choose his guardian, and accordingly makes
>>>>>> choice of Mr. Samuel Briscoe, who in Court here accepts thereof,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> is appointed accordingly. (Charles County Court Records,
>>>>>> 1741-1743).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So Williamson Bruce ends up with his other Uncle Samuel
>>>>>> Williamson
>>>>>> Briscoe, l/2 brother to Capt John.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does anyone have any information on Sarah? Did she remarry? Did
>>>>>> she
>>>>>> have a probate?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any information on Mary and Martha? Do you think Mary and Martha
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> aka Eleanor and Sarah? Any indication who the mother(s) of these
>>>>>> Williamson girls could have been?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks so very much,
>>>>>> Sharon
>>>>>>
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