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From: "jeanne millman" <>
Subject: RE: Treasure Hunt last Friday in Antrim Co!
Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2006 20:08:40 -0700
In-Reply-To: <20060705015738.10630.qmail@web81806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


Carolyn,

That's fabulous news!

what courthouse were you at? and what campground?
I've been homesick today, started to cry when I looked at an Antrim Co map
online!

go to www.familysearch.com and look in the "family history library catalogy"
to see what Antrim Co records they have on microfilm.

where do you live? are you anywhere near a Mormon temple w/ a family history
center? They can help you order the microfilms to search.

also, have you checked to see if your local library can order Mormon family
history films? or copies of Antrim records???

Jeanne

>From: Carolyn Obertein <>
>Reply-To:
>To:
>Subject: Treasure Hunt last Friday in Antrim Co!
>Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2006 18:57:38 -0700 (PDT)
>
>My 9-year-old grandson and I were in Antrim Co. on Friday. We decided we
>would make this into a treasure hunt. We were looking for 2 treasures,
>David Gagnons property and his headstone. David Gagnon was born in Canada
>May 19, 1854. We knew from the 1900-1920 census that he owned a farm in
>Echo township. Armed with this little bit of information we started to
>look for our first clue at the courthouse. A very helpful lady at the
>Register of Deeds office took us to the back where she made us sign in.
>This made my grandson feel very grownup and important. She pulled out a
>very large old book and explained to my grandson about grantors and
>grantees. Within 10 minutes we had found the deed to his property. The
>lady made us a copy and said it only cost $1. I was thrilled, but I wasnt
>as prepared as I thought. I brought no money with me. I was so
>embarrassed. She said dont worry about it and gave us the deed. We
>decided to get some money from the bank in town and
> get lunch at McDonalds. We sat in the courthouse parking lot eating our
>lunch and trying to figure out where David Gagnons property was on the
>map. We then decided we would check to see if he died in Antrim Co.
>Within 10 minutes we had David and his wife Marys death certificates. We
>stopped back at the Register of Deeds counter to pay the kind lady the $1
>we owed her and to ask how to locate the property. She gave us a map that
>showed the section his land was located. We now had 3 keys to our
>treasure. The death cert. said Mary died April 8, 1926 in Echo township
>from a heart attack and David died June 20, 1936 from TB in Forest Home.
>We decided we would try to find his headstone first. Looking at the map
>there was 3 cemeteries that was close to his property.
>
> Densmore (Dunsmore) - section 28, Old County Road 624, Central Lake
> Morehouse - Section 10, Schroeder Road, East Jordon
> And a small cemetery off Bailey Rd.
>
> No luck finding David Gagnons headstone at these cemeteries, so we
>decided to switch to the other treasure in our treasure hunt David
>Gagnons property. We followed the map she had given us to a little dirt
>road off Six Mile Lake Road called Crawford Rd. The area was just
>beautiful but so heavily wooded I felt we wouldnt find it. But suddenly
>we came to a clearing and there was the 80 acres of land that David had
>farmed. But no signs of an old home. There was a beautiful new house next
>to the property so I decided we would stop and ask if their abstract showed
>David Gagnon as owning the land at one time. A very kind helpful lady was
>pulling out of the driveway as we were pulling in. I showed her the deed
>and asked if she knew of where Davids house would have been. She told us
>that there was a foundation on the hill of an old homestead. We were so
>excited. We walked over to the hill and sure enough there it was, the
>foundation of David Gagnons old
> homestead. We took many pictures of the land and foundation. We had
>found our first treasure in our hunt!
>
> It now was late in the day and we were both tired and hungry. It was
>time to call it quits. We never did find David & Mary Gagnons headstone.
>
> When we arrived back at the campgrounds and looked over all the
>information we acquired more carefully. We realized we should have done a
>couple more things but would have to wait until another time that we would
>be back in Antrim County over the next couple years or see if there was
>someone on this mail list that could help us.
>
> This is the list of items we were wondering if someone could help us
>with:
>
>
> We would like to know if David and Mary Gagnon left a Will. Could
>someone check at the court house for us? Death dates are Mary Gagnon,
>April 8, 1926 and David Gagnon June 20, 1936.
> Are there newspapers on microfilm that would have their obituaries that
>would maybe tell were they are buried? Could someone take a peak for us?
> Are there indexes to the cemeteries that would tell us if David and
>Mary Gagnon are buried in another cemetery in Antrim Co.? Mary died in
>Echo township and David died in Forest Home.
> I found the index info for Davids naturalization papers: Antrim County
>Naturalization Index Gagnon, David - B1, F5, P248. How would I get a copy
>of these.
>
> I would like to Thank all the kind people that helped us while in Antrim
>County.
>
> Thank you for any help you can give!
> Carolyn Obertein and
> Enoch Davis (my grandson, he loves doing family research and will
>probably take over when I am no longer able to continue)
>
>
>jeanne millman <> wrote: Carolyn,
>been following your antrim posts w/ Jay. Can you locate David Gagons census
>'neighbors' on a platt map?
>
>
> >From: Carolyn Obertein
> >Reply-To: Carolyn Obertein
> >To:
> >Subject: Re: Help with antrim platt maps!!!
> >Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 15:52:30 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >Thank you Jay and Diane for all your help in trying to locate David
>Gagnon.
> > I have found him in the 1900, 1910 and 1920 Census. Below you will find
> >what I found in the census. This is why I am trying to locate a platt map
> >with him in it so maybe I can find a cemetery close by where he may be
> >buried. Also I have found an Antrim County Naturalization Index, Gagnon,
> >David - B1, F5, P248. If either of you have access to this index could
>you
> >please take a peek for me as to what it says or where I can find this
>index
> >so if I am in Antrim Co. again I can look?
> >
> >1900 South Arm Township, Charlovoix Co., Michigan Census
> >Supervisor's District #11
> >Enumeration District #19
> >Jacob E. Chew, Enumerator
> >June 25, 1900
> >Gagnon, David, White, Male, May 1861, age 39, single, born Canada French,
> >Father born Canada French, Mother born Canada French, naturalized 1879,
> >naturalized for 21 years, farmer, unemployed 0 months, he can read, write
> >and speak English, owned property, free of a mortgage, farm, farm
>schedule
> >127. This census states he was single but the 1910 census said he was
> >married 15 years which would have made him married in 1895. I feel this
> >was just an error and that he was married in 1895 to Mary McGinnes. Need
> >to check Saginaw Court house for record of marriage or Charlovoix or
>Antrim
> >for marriage record.
> >
> >1910 Echo Township, Antrim County, Michigan Census
> >May 5, 1910 census taken by Delbert D. Bennett
> >Supervisors district 11
> >Enumeration District 5
> >Sheet 9B
> >David Gagnon, Head, male, white, 51, married 1 time, married for 15
>years,
> >born canadian french, father born canadian french, mother born canadian
> >french, year of immigration 1885, naturalized, speaks English, Farmer,
> >General Farm, not sure if employer, can read and write, owned farm free
>(no
> >mortgage), farm schedule 87.
> >Mary Gagnon, wife female, white 50, married 2 times, married for 15
>years,
> >no children living or dead, born canadian french, father Irish, mother
> >Irish, Immigrated in 1881, speaks english, farm laborer, general farm,
> >working on own account, was not out of work on April 15, 1910, worked all
> >months during the year, can read and write.
> >Josephine Bessett, Niece, female, white, 27, single, born Michigan,
>father
> >canadian french, mother canadian french, speaks english, can read and
> >write, no job. (This is David's sister's daughter from Saginaw)
> >Canes McGinnes, father-in-law, male, white 85, widowed, Scot Galic??? so
> >was his parents, immigrated 1855, naturalized, speaks english, own
>income,
> >can read and write.
> >
> >1920 Echo Township, Antrim County, Michigan Census
> >January 19, 20 & 21, 1920 by John A. Petric
> >Supervisors district 10
> >Enumeration District 31
> >Sheet 6A
> >David Gagnon, head, owned home, mortgaged, male, white, 56, married,
> >immigrated 1879, naturalized 1889, can read and write, born canada,
>french
> >is mother tongue, father born canada french native tongue, mother born
> >canada french native tongue, speaks english, farmer, general farmer,
> >employer, farm schedule 78.
> >Mary Gagnon, wife, female, white, 60, married, naturalized 1889, can read
> >and write, born canada, english mother tongue, father Ireland, english
> >native tongue, mother Ireland, english native tongue, speaks english, no
> >job.
> >Charles Delong, boarder, male, white, 11, single, attended school, can
>read
> >and write, born Michigan, father born michigan, mother born NS, speaks
> >english, no job.
> >
> >Have a great Day!
> >Carolyn Obertein
> >
> >
> >Census, Bios, Obits, Cemetery, Church, & Vet Photos, Platt & Cemetery
>Maps,
> >Citizens, Vets, and Poll List - Visit the Saginaw County Photograph
> >Website:
> >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~evansandobertein/saginaw.htm
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message ----
> >From: J.M. (Jay) Ingalls
> >To:
> >Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 10:54:38 PM
> >Subject: Re: Help with antrim platt maps!!!
> >
> >
> >Any luck with your research on Gagnon in Charlevoix county?
> >
> >Jay
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Carolyn Obertein"
> >To:
> >Sent: 27 September, 2004 5:59 PM
> >Subject: Help with antrim platt maps!!!
> >
> >
> > >I am trying to find a copy of Echo Twp. Antrim County platt maps
> > >between 1890-1930. Can anyone help me out?
> > > I am also trying to find a platt map for South Arm Township,
> > > Charlovoix between 1880-1900.
> > > David Gagnon owned land (farms) in these townships during these time
> > > periods. I would like to find out where. This may also help me find
> > > a cemetery that was close by where he and his wife may be buried.
> > > Thank you
> > > Carolyn
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Census, Bios, Obits, Cemetery, Church, & Vet Photos, Platt &
> > > Cemetery Maps, Citizens, Vets, and Poll List - Visit the Saginaw
> > > County Photograph Website:
> > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~evansandobertein/saginaw.htm
> > >
> > >
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