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From: "Barbara Murray" <>
Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] Johan or Hannah? - HARDY/HARDIE m SIMPSON 1773
Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2007 13:15:58 +0930
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writes:

> Through the highly expensive ScotlandsPeople site, I have finally
> identified the parents of my ggg grandmother, Margaret DAVIE (nee
> SIMPSON), born about 1775 in the Edinburgh area.
>
> Margaret's 1858 death register entry (693/00 0055) names her parents as
> William SIMPSON and Hannah HARDIE.
>
> I immediately plugged this info into IGI and came up with 2 references
> to this SIMPSON-HARDIE marriage in 1773 (Liberton), but the bride is
> given in both references as Johan (HARDY) (Batch 7126424/Sheet
> 09/Source Call 0538935/Film, and Batch M116938/1733-1819/Source Call
> 1067783/Film/ Printout Call 6901063/Film/Sheet 00)
>
> I know that there can be no true "official" name back in the 1700s, as
> each record will reflect the interpretation of the recorder at the time
> (William is given as a Carter, and may well have been illiterate), but
> can I assume that my gggg grandmother was probably named Johanna(h),
> sometimes recorded as Johan, and probably usually known as Hannah?
>
> It simply comes down to the common problem of deciding which version to
> enter into the family tree record as the base version.
>
> Cheers
>
> Alan Hattle

Alan,
I would take the scotlandspeople names as being correct. Sometimes the
I.G.I. records are not correct.
I have been collecting data for Barrie/y families hoping to have a book
combining the siblings of my 5 x great grandfather & their families &
various occupations, for my relatives.
From I.G.I. of a Thursday in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia you may meet
with their members & obtain any information available.
They had given me a printout for 11 children of a Patrick Barrie,from 1737 -
1756, of these in 1739 were a Jean & John baptized the same month, & again
in 1743 when my 5 x Grt g'fther was born was a William baptized the same
date, so they thought they would be twins.

Over the past 10 years I've gathered data for these siblings where possible
& now have a tree with about 1900 people.
During this time much has also been gathered from I.G.I. then used to
purchase b.m.& d's from scotlandspeople. I had purchased copies of births
for a couple & marriages which were expensive. A few days ago I decided to
buy 12 GB pounds of units to obtain the baptisms of the other siblings as it
is now available & cheaper this way.
WELL, what a surprise,
The twins are not related, they have father's named Patrick, but from
different areas of Forfar, & in different jobs.
Of the 11, I think only 5 are siblings.
So please be careful & aware that I.G.I. is super for finding people but
isn't reliable whereas Scotlandspeople's info is from church records &
reliable.
Is actually worth the expense, but in my case I've spent too much finding
details of non siblings.
Also, in Australia to purchase a b.d.m., is from $18 to $28. Our $ = 2 1/2
to 1 GB pound so compares quite well.
Hope this will assist in your searching.

Best regards
Barbara

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