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From: "Marian Sarantha" <>
Subject: Re: [MOANDREW] Finding old birth records
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 16:55:13 -0700
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Thanks, Monica, you've given me a couple of clues, and also confirmed what I
suspected, that no part of St Joseph lies in Jackson Co. (I actually grew
up in K.C. but had no knowledge of Missouri north of that city. Even though
my Mom had relatives in St. Joseph, there was no contact by the time I was
old enough to be aware of assorted aunts, uncles and cousins.)

I found a Margaret Moore, age 10, in the 1850 census for Weston, Platte Co.,
but by then the Margaret I was searching for had departed (1848-49) by wagon
train for CA with her mother and stepfather, Elisha Brown and two of his
daughters from a prior marriage. (I found this information on WorldConnect
following your identification of Mr. Brown.) So I will pursue CA records
from this point, as I had already identified the family with whom Margaret
was left by her stepfather, who never returned for her. Family lore states
he was killed by a bear in northern CA. We do have record of Margaret's
marriage in San Bernardino on August 12 1857 to a James Ephraim Twitchell,
son of the family who fostered her.

Have lots of experience as a DAR volunteer Lineage Researcher through
assisting others in their efforts for DAR membership, but deeply appreciate
the tips offered. Above all, thanks for identifying the marriage of Thursa
Miller-Moore to Elisha Miller, which has assisted me in cracking this case
wide open.

You're a wonderful information resource, and if I can help you in return,
please call on me.

Marian - WY

----- Original Message -----
From: "Monica Schirmer Eshelman" <>
To: <>
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 3:06 PM
Subject: [MOANDREW] Finding old birth records


> Hi, Marian,
>
> I'll reply to the whole list, as others might have some better ideas, or
> might be interested.
>
> There are very few early birth records in northwest Missouri. (My
> knowledge doesn't extend to Chariton Co., though.) Probably the only
> "official" type records would be if a local doctor kept lists of babies
> delivered, or church baptism/christening records. There weren't any
> government agencies keeping track of births that early. Though part of
> rural St. Joseph is part of Andrew Co., the city itself is in Buchanan Co.
> If you could find any church affiliation, you might be able to contact
> some of the current churches in St. Joseph to see if there are any old
> records relating to births. The only church in Andrew Co. that has made
> its records public (that I know of) is St. John's German Reformed Church,
> made up mainly of Swiss immigrants. Those records are now at the Andrew
> County Historical Society and Museum in Savannah. I doubt that the Moores
> were members of that church, and I think 1840 is too early for membership
> there anyway.
>
> If I were you, I'd be looking for churches in St. Joseph. Of course, many
> people had no church affiliation, and those records can be spotty anyway.
> (By the way, no part of St. Joseph is in Jackson Co., though part of
> Kansas City is.)
>
> Family Bibles are another record accepted by the DAR, though those are
> even more scarce. You might have to hunt for some distant cousins to
> Margaret to see if they have any kind of records.
>
> I assume you've looked for Margaret on the 1850 census record? (The DAR
> will take census information to prove parentage.) You didn't say when the
> family went west. If it were before 1850 and her mother was dead by then,
> you could be in a predicament, unless she's living with family members.
> If you don't have her 1850 census record, please let me know some more
> details of where she might have been, or some other members of her family,
> and I'll be glad to hunt for her for you.
>
> Ah, I've found that her mother (listed on-line at WorldConnect as Thursa
> Ann Miller) married Elisha Brown in Nodaway Co. in 1847. If you could
> find her living with Elisha Brown, you could prove the marriage of her
> mother to Elisha, and hence her birth.
>
> Maybe some other people on the List will have some more ideas. I haven't
> gone DAR myself, but a cousin of mine did recently, so I'm familiar with
> some of their evidence requirements. If you can find Margaret on a census
> with any older member of her family, even an aunt, you can build a case
> for her birth.
>
> Monica
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Marian Sarantha
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 3:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [MOANDREW] New graves discovered
>
>
> Am looking for information on a Margaret Frances Moore b. 20 June 1840 in
> St. Joseph, Andrew Co., MO. Her parents were Huston Moore b. 1819, St.
> Joseph, Jackson Co. (?), MO, and Thursa Velma Miller b. 1824, also St.
> Joseph, Jackson (?), MO. Thursda died on the midwest plains travelling
> from
> MO to CA. I found on Ancestry their 1839 marriage record in Chariton Co,
> MO.
>
> What I'm seeking is some sort of proof of birth for Margaret. Could you
> make some suggestions? I researched in Andrew and other nearby counties
> last summer and found it very hard to come up with results.
>
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