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From: Debra McBride <>
Subject: [MONEWTON] Fwd: Re: Ross Cemetery
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 19:52:04 -0800 (PST)



--- Debra McBride <> wrote:
> Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 14:10:55 -0800 (PST)
> From: Debra McBride <>
> Subject: Re: Ross Cemetery
> To: John Dill <>
>
>
> John, I think you are right about these
> connections.
> I did not know that there were any of CHIEF JOHN
> ROSS'S FAMILY in Newton co. Also, Annie Shorey's
> father was William Shorey,and he married a full
> blood
> Cherokee who was GHI-GOO-IE.....Annie also had a
> sister Elizabeth and she married John Lowrey.
> DANIEL ROSS mar. MARY MOLLY MCDONALD IN 1789/90.
> Their children were:...... he was white, and she
> was
> 1/4 Cherokee. CHIEF JOHN ROSS 1/8 CHEROKEE
> INDIAN.
> 1. JOHN ROSS (CHIEF) B.OCT.3 1790 at Turkeytown(on
> Coosa River, Ga.near Lookout Mountain,Tn.He died in
> 1866.He marr. ELIZABETH QUATIE BROWN(a quaker)in
> 1813.She died 1839 on the Trail of Tears. He then
> married MARY BRYAN STAPLER in 1845. CHIEF JOHN AND
> QUATIE'S CHILDREN WERE:
> 1.JAMES ROSS. He married SALLIE MANNION
> 2.ALLEN ROSS. He married JENNIE FIELDS
> 3.JENNIE ROSS. She married RETURN JONATHAN MEIGS.
> Apparently he died, and she marr.(2)ANDREW ROSS
> NAVE.
> 4.SILAS DEAN ROSS. He married (1)NANNIE OR FANNIE
> RHODA STIFF....(2)JESSIE SANDERS....(3)ELIZABETH
> RAPER.
> 5.GEORGE WASHINGTON ROSS. He married NANNIE OR
> FANNIE
> OTTERLIFTER.
> 6.JOHN ROSS JR. He married ELIZABETH CHOUTEAU. He
> then married LOUISA CATHERINE MEANS.
> THESE WERE THE CHILDREN OF CHIEF JOHN AND QUATIE.
>
> CHIEF JOHN AND MARY BRYAN STAPLER CHILDREN:
> 1.ANNIE BRYAN ROSS. She married LEONIDAS DOBSON.
> 2.JOHN ROSS II. He married (1)CAROLINE CORNELISON
> LAZALEAR. (2) CHRISTINE FOREMAN HAGLUND. I HAVE
> FURTHER NAMES AND MARRIAGE NAMES...If only I had a
> scanner. But I will mangage to do any lookups for
> any
> of this family. All I have on this pedigree chart is
> names and who they married. Let me know if you would
> like the rest.
> Other children of DANIEL AND MARY MOLLY....
> 2.LEWIS ROSS. marreid FANNIE HOLT.
> 3.JENNIE ROSS. married JOSEPH COODY.
> 4.ELIZABETH ROSS. married JOHN GOLDEN ROSS,(no
> relation to each other)
> 5.SUSANNAH ROSS. married HENRY NAVE.
> 6.ANDREW ROSS. married SUSAN LOWREY.
> 7.ANNIE ROSS. married WILLIAM NAVE.
> 8.MARGARET ROSS. married ELIJAH HICKS.
> 9.MARIE ROSS. married JONATHAN MULKEY.
>
> NOTE THIS: 1.>DANIEL ROSS B. 1760. He died May
> 22,1830 at Chickamauga,Ga. HE HAD 2 BROTHERS AND ONE
> SISTER. ALL BORN IN SUTHERLANDSHIRE,SCOTLAND, THEY
> WERE:
> 2.>JAMES ROSS. b.abt. 1776. HE married a full blood
> cherokee woman. HE died in Benton Co.Ark. in 1840.
> 3.>ANDREW ROSS. HAVE NO OTHER INFO. ABT. HIM.
> 4.>The sister, I have no name for her.
> Thier parents were:: HUGH III LORD OF BALNAGOWN
> and LADY JANET. LADY JANET was the daughter of
> THE EARL OF SUTHERLAND SUGERLIN OF
> SUTHERLANDSHIRE,SCOTLAND. HUGH III father was HUGH
> I, LAIRD OF BALNAGOWN. THIS info. contained in THE
> HISTORY OF THE CHEROKEE INDIAN,by EMMET STARR.
> I have further info. if needed.
>
> As far as any of the MCDONALDS, I find some
> MCDONALDS
> back in 1474 at LEINSTER, IRELAND. THEN onto 1645 at
> ARKLOW,WICKLOW,IRELAND OR GLENCOE,ARGYLL,SCOTLAND.
> Again in 1722 in NEWCASTLE,PA.>>ONTO MONTGOMERY
> CO.PA.>>ONTO BOTETOURT,VA. AND WEST VA.....I havent
> finished my research on them yet. But I am sure that
> there is McDonalds in Scott Co.Ark. All of these I
> find are related to ALEXANDERS and ROSS'S.
> ALEXANDERS
> married ROSS'S in Pa. McDONALD and ROSS'S...AND ALSO
> THEY MARRIED INTO THE SURNAME BLACK.
>
> YES,This sounds like a connection could be there,
> but
> I cant find it anywhere. I have been doing this for
> some answers in the CHIEF JOHN ROSS FAMILY since
> 1986,
> and I have just come to the conclusion that my
> ROSS'S
> are a different bunch. Maybe not, but I have
> searched
> and searched this family and have never been able to
> find it. Altho,family stories says, that we came
> from
> Scotland, and from a long line of ministers.
> It sound like to me that JOHN ROSS that married
> RACHEL SMITH is my connection possibly. And probably
> alot of our connections, that we cannot prove right
> now.
> It also sounds like that your DILL FAMILY is a
> connection as my GR.GR.GRANDFATHER JOHN ALEXANDER
> ROSS and his brother HIRAM MCDONALD ROSS were all in
> the same UNION ARMY and all in the 1ST ARK.CALVRY
> together. This just all amazes me. As my JAMES ROSS
> from Tn. was in in Barry Co.Mo. at the same time
> your
> family was. IM sure thier is a connection here
> somewhere. Also with DEB ROWE'S ROSS FAMILY. If we
> keep searching and corresonding with each other, I
> believe we will find it.
> I also had a lady named VERA DEAN ROSS send me the
> 1830 Ark.Territory Census. just for Ross's.
> ALEXANDER E. ROSS in POPE CO. ARK.
> CHARLES T.ROSS in IZARD CO.ARK. (this is how I
> read
> this Co.
> DANIEL ROSS in CRITTENDEN CO.ARK.
>
> Maybe all this will help you, or someone else out
> there in ROSS LAND. I am very thankful for you and
> everyone that is helping out and putting in info.
> that
> is very useful for us all. I want to THANK YOU
> again
> so much for all your help. THANK EVERYONE. Lets just
> keep in touch. Debra McBride Cheater
>
>
>
>
>
> --- John Dill <> wrote:
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Debra McBride" <>
> > To: <>
> > Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 10:22 PM
> > Subject: Ross Cemetery
> >
> >
> > My Gr.Grandfather was JOSEPH MCDONALD ROSS, B.1877
> > at
> > > Crawford Co. Mountainburg,Ark. I remember him
> very
> > > well.
> >
> > *** I have some McDonald's also connected with
> this
> > bunch in Scott County.
> > I have never been able to trace them or find out
> > where they came from.
> >
> > I have also looked up everything on the CHIEF
> > > JOHN ROSS FAMILY and cant make a connection
> there
> > > either, and I have studied very hard at it.
> >
> > ** Grace Woodward in her book THE CHEROKEES has
> > quite a bit to say about
> > Chief John Ross but doesn't go into a lot of
> > genealogy about his family.
> > She (and other authors) leaves little doubt that
> he
> > was "part white". When
> > you go back and read about the original Cherokee
> > "dealings" in their
> > original nation on the east coast several names
> jump
> > out at you. (several
> > articles I have read say that Chief Ross had kin
> > living in Newton County,
> > MO. but I've never found them named.)
> >
> > One man mentioned over and over is John McDonald
> (a
> > Scotch-Irish) who was
> > very involved with and accepted by the Cherokee.
> > Another family involved
> > with them is Alexander Cameron (a name associated
> > many times with my
> > RUTLEDGE). All these men were married to
> Cherokee's
> > and lived in mountainous
> > western South Carolina.
> >
> > "John McDonald... married Anna Shorey, the
> > half-blood daughter of William
> > Shorey, the interpreter... the McDonald's daughter
> > Molly, some years later,
> > becamse the wife of Daniel Ross and the mother of
> > Chief John Ross."
> >
> > With the names you keep using, I would think there
> > is a great chance that
> > there is a connection in here somewhere.
> >
> > John
> >
> >
>
>
> =====
>
>
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