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From: "Pam Thornbury" <>
Subject: Re: [Mon] Census look up please 1861 and 1871 if possible and advice on illegitimacy in Wales
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 16:27:59 +1300
This looks like your boy in 1871:
RG10/5312 Folio 61
Avon Road, Blaenavon
SHAW, Thomas, HD, M, 18, Pudler, STS Bilston
Ann, Wife, 23, MON Llanover Upper
Mariah, DA, 8, STS Wolverhampton (becomes Miriam in 1881)
Ann, DA, 5, MON Llanover upper
Marria?, 4, MON Trevethin [no relationship listed]
GREEN, David, Hd, M, 27, Lab in iron works, HEF, Henlland
Ann, Wife, 40, STS Bradley
SHAW, Enoch, SSO, 20, Pudler, STS Wedmoreland?
SHAW, Edwin, SSO, 10, "
SHAW, Thomas, SSO, 6, "
GREEN, Joseph, Brother, 19, Lab in iron works, HEF ==
HORTON, John, Boarder, 23, Pudler, HEF==?
So it looks as if the SHAW family were in Staffordshire in 1861. Couldn't find Enoch in
1881 so possibly dead or emigrated?
in New Zealand
Hello! I would be most grateful for your help.
> My Great Grandfather John Samuel Davies was illegitimate but I have
> found on an online baptism record the following information
> 23rd Oct 1872 John Saml reputed son of Enock (h?) Shaw, Blaenavon,
> Puddler, and Ann Davies. I am guessing that Enock/h would be about
> I am wondering what happened to Enock Shaw but can't see him for
> definite on the 1881 census, so need a little background info.
> Also wondered about people's morals in those times. My family tell
> me that they think that John Samuel's mother was told not to marry
> Enoch so maybe he was a bad lad or it could be a family myth. I
> imagined that they would have been desperate to marry her off rather
> than face the shame. many thanks Dawn