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From: "Robert Treharne Jones" <>
Subject: Re: [MON] powell edwards
Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 20:52:16 +0100
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Dear Mary

If I'd thought about it a little longer I would have realised that the
'Inmate in Builth' couldn't possibly have been Mary's father - according to
your information that man was born three years after his daughter!

There are several Mary Edwards born in 1826 +/- 1 and living in Bedwellty
area and none living in the Aberystruth sub-district.

One lived in Charlestown, Blackwood and another in Uchlawrcoed
Another had a father who was a cordwainer
Three had fathers who were colliers or miners
Another was the daughter of a police superintendent!

None of them had fathers with first names anything like Powell!

The Parish Church of Aberystruth is St. Peter's, Blaina.

Robert


-----Original Message-----
From:
[mailto:] On Behalf Of

Sent: 06 May 2007 11:45
To: ;
Subject: Re: [MON] powell edwards

Hallo again - you brightened up our day!! - we have been trying to solve
this for weeks - but still no where near a result. The marriage
certificate of Mary definitely says that her name is MARY EDWARDS - I can
understand they could have made a mistake with his name but we feel he
should be a Edwards whatever his christian name may be!!! - do you agree?
she married in the Parish Church of Aberystruth - where is this? (1844) Is
it St. Peters Blaina or the church in Llanelly Breconshire Thanks Mary
>
> From: "Robert Treharne Jones" <>
> Date: 2007/05/06 Sun AM 11:02:39 BST
> To: <>
> Subject: Re: [MON] powell edwards
>
> Aha! Finally found him - his name in 1901 was Powell Edward (without the
> 's'), hence the possibility that is forename and surname were interposed.
In
> fact that's EXACTLY what happened - if you examine the census return in
> details there's a (2) over the word Powell and a (1) over the word Edward
so
> the enumerator recognised the error.
>
> His occupation is listed a general labourer and place of birth as
> Llanganten, an ancient parish in the Builth area which no longer exists.
>
> With that information the following is available from the censuses:
>
> 1871 Working as a farm labourer and lodging with the Jones family at
> Llangyfelach, Glamorgan.
>
> 1861 Working as a waggoner and general agricultural labourer and lodging
> with the Williams family in Llannon, Carmarthenshire
>
> 1851 Working as a servant with the Price family (farmers) in Llanelwedd,
> Radnorshire
>
> 1841 Living in Llanganten with his parents Edward, 45, and Marcy (sic),
40,
> plus siblings Mary, 3, Rees, 9, and Samuel and William, both 5.
>
> Of course this doesn't tie in with what you state regarding Mary's
marriage
> to John Jones in 1844 when she would only have been 6 years old, nor the
> family living in Nantyglo. However no other Edward Powell that I could
find
> comes near to the critical data of 'Llanganten 1829' so I'm assuming that
> this Edward Powell is not the correct one for your family and the 1901
data
> is a red herring.
>
> It's now worth looking for 'Edward Powell' in the early censuses for
> Nantyglo/Aberystruth.
>
> Robert
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> [mailto:] On Behalf Of
>
> Hallo - thanks for your interest - we know its not Blane However on 1901
> Census we found a Powell eDWARDS AGED 72 BORN 1829 INMATE AT aSYLUM IN
> bUILTH bRECONSHIRE.It says born in Llangenten - which could be anywhere in
> Wales!!!! It questions the fact that he may have is name wrong way round -
> however on the marriage certificate of his daughter Mary it says fatheer
> POwell Edwards farmer.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
> > [mailto:] On Behalf Of
> >
> > Looking for Powell ewdwards all we know is that his daughter Mary
married
> a
> > John Jones in 1844 at the Parish Church of Aberystruth.They were
resident
> > at time in Nantyglo.Mary was born in 1826.
>
>
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