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From: "Hugh Watkins" <>
Subject: Re: [MON] Arthur James HAYES died 1890 Tredegar
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 21:06:34 +0100
References: <4853EA0C.8060304@swallowtail.org>
In-Reply-To: <4853EA0C.8060304@swallowtail.org>


2008/6/14 Sian Mackey <>:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I am trying to find out where my gggrandfather was in 1881
>
> In 1871 he was in the Forest of Dean with his family. He is a census
> enumerator. In 1881 the family minus Arthur James was still there and my
> gggrandmother is listed as a widow. However... Arthur James actually
> died in 1890 in Charles Street, Tredegar, with his eldest son (my
> ggrandfather Frederick James) in attendance! By 1891, the HAYES family
> was in 199, Trecelyn, Claurplwyf. By 1901 they were all in Llanhilleth.
>
>
> The mystery is where did Arthur James go between 1871 and 1890, since he
> doesn't seem to be findable (at least not thus far) on the 1881 census.
> Mind you, the family specialises in being left off indexes and having
> their names mangled. He has to be out there somewhere.



1871 England Census
about Arthur Jas Hayes
Name: Arthur Jas Hayes
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Catherine
Gender: Male
Where born: Starcross, Devon, England

Civil Parish: East Dean
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation: WATCHMAN AT IRON WORKS

Condition as to marriage: M

Registration district: Westbury On Severn
Sub registration district: Newnham
ED, institution, or vessel: 17a
Household schedule number: 70
Household Members:
Name Age
Arthur Jas Hayes 48
Catherine Hayes 45
Dorothy Hayes 19
Emily Hayes 12
Frederick Jas Hayes 5
Helena Hayes 9 months
Henry Arthur Hayes 23 SMITH
John Arthur Hayes 9


http://content.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/view.aspx?dbid=7619&path=Gloucestershire.East+Dean.ALL.17a.14


Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 2599; Folio: 32; Page: 14; GSU
roll: 835277.


1851
http://content.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/view.aspx?dbid=8860&path=Gloucestershire.East+Dean.ALL.4c.14&fn=Arthur%20J&ln=Hayes&st=r&pid=7656904&rc=&zp=100

Frederick certainly not his oldest son

Arthur James Hayes abt 1822 1890 Jul-Aug-Sep Bedwelty Monmouthshire

1881
http://content.ancestry.co.uk/iexec/?htx=view&r=5538&dbid=7572&iid=GLSRG11_2522_2526-0165&fn=Catherine&ln=Hayes&st=d&ssrc=&pid=6184265

clearly marked widow

strange

Hugh W




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