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From: Sian Mackey <>
Subject: Re: [MON] Arthur James HAYES died 1890 Tredegar
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 22:13:30 +0100
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wrote:
> Hello Sian,
> I located Frederick, I am confused with the name you give me Sussana Olovers
> because there was no record listed but when I placed S Oliver the Census
> record came up.
> And this was listed on the 1891 image, they were living in the hamlet of
> Clwr-plwyf in the Parish of Mynyddislwyn.
>
> F J Hayes age 25 son fitter
> C Hayes age 65 mother
> S Oliver age 12 niece
> J Oliver age 11 nephew
> there was also other boarders living in the property.
>
> So it appears that Frederick was recorded on all Census records, and I
> looked back on all Census records for Arthur and not one of them showed him to be
> an enumerator.
> And if Arthur landed in Tredegar the reason more than likely was work
> related, he had worked at the Iron Works in Gloucester and there may have been more
> work for him in Tredegar where there was a local Iron Works and others not
> too far away.
> And the mystery of Catherine placing widow on the 1881 Census could be as
> you say that he left her, or he may have been in prison.
> Regards Barbara
>
>
Hi Barbara,

He was an enumerator in 1871, as was Henry his eldest son.

Frederick is recorded properly, but doesn't come up on the search
engines behind ancestry's index. That's why you have to put in
Susannah's name to find him.

I agree that work is the most likely explanation for choosing Tredegar.
Although, by trawling street to street through Tredegar 1881 some months
ago, I did find a John Hayes from Kenton which is the parish which
Starcross became part of and which is just down the road from where
Arthur James was born. Not that he's easy to find either as his place of
birth on the ancestry index is given as "Stenton Dover"...as opposed to
Kenton, Devon which is what it actually says. These misstranscriptions
cause us all a lot of time an unnecessary effort!

Regards,
Sian.

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