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From: "George Watt" <>
Subject: Re: [MORAY] Kirkton of Mortlach
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 15:54:25 -0400


Hi Ross and will incude Bill Remp in respose to his query,
I was at the LDS Library here in Ottawa this morning and by the time I had
checked out some queries I had in Glenbuchat, (this included Moir in that
parish) I only got up to 1777 in the Mortlach OPR. It will be another week
until my next visit so hope you will excuse the delay.
The earliest entry that I found for a Moir baptism was "Lachlan, natural son
to Johm Moir and Janet Cruickshank bap. June 9 1742, however, we shall see
what in store for next week.

A slight correction to the information that you have about Mether Cluny. It
is not actually in Dufftown or anywhere near Mortlach Distillery which is
the oldest in Dufftown (c. 1830 ???) Refer to the OLD Maps website below and
apply the co-ordinates accordingly.
See separate correspondence !!

Will talk to you later.

George in Ottawa.





http://www.old-maps.co.uk/
Waulkmill located on the east side of the Dufftown Railway station
332189,841794
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Mortlach Distillery located in Dufftown
332663,839770

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Located slightly SW of Dufftown. On recent OS Maps, it is called Glenrinnes
Lodge.
Mether Cluny (not located near Mortlach Distillery)
approx. 1.25 miles south of Dufftown.
331241,838505

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>From: Kotuku Media <>
>Reply-To:
>To:
>Subject: Re: [MORAY] Kirkton of Mortlach
>Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 15:18:17 +1200
>
>Hi George - yes I'm after the Moirs. Apparently the Waukmiln (of Balvenie)
>mob are buried there. There are a set of in-laws for me.
>so anything you have would be great.
>
>all I know is that Ann Moir m Patrick Duff of Mather Cluny (opposite
>Mortlach distillery today). She was the granddaughter of Moir of Waulkmiln
>who was apparently a heritor. He had enough to 'settle' Ann comfortably on
>the Duff family.
>
>Robert Moir was apparently at Walkmylne in he 1670s and James in he 1640s.
>
>What sparked the renewal of the search was this memoir sent to me by
>William Ramp:
>
>====================================================================
>Notes on ancestry of John Duncan and Isabel Moir, Drywells, Cabrach,
>Banffshire
>
>John Duncan, born June 1767 at Drywells, Cabrach, Banffshire
>
>Christened 20 June 1767 at Cabrach: witnesses John Teprman[?] in Boghead
>and John Taylor [1]
>
>Died 8 May, 1855, Drywells, Cabrach; buried at Mortlach
>
>Married 6 July or 26 August 1799, at Kirktown of Mortlach, to Isabel MOIR.
>The marriage dates given in the relevant Old Parish Registers are 6 July
>1799 (Mortlach OPR), or 26 August 1799 (Cabrach OPR). One of the above
>dates may be of an announcement or registration at Cabrach parish
>subsequent to the event?[2]
>
>One of John Duncan's sons was James Duncan of Parkmore, Mortlach
>(1809-1876). In a memoir of this James Duncan, Parkmore (probably written
>around 1876), James Moir of Glasgow (a cousin on Isabel's side)
>characterized John Duncan and Isabel Moir as follows:
>
>"His father's name was John Duncan, a man of a very kindly disposition, the
>reigning power of mind was to do good in every way he could, in knowledge
>he was far in advance of many who lived in the quarter at the time. He was
>not only skilled as a Veterinary Practitioner, but did much for man - he
>bled - vaccinated - cured sore eyes - healed sprains. Doctors were few and
>lived at a great distance from the quarter. As a mark of esteem, his
>friends got up a testimonial and presented him with a snuff box, and an
>eight-day clock, which remains as an heirloom in the family, to mark their
>gratitude. "
>
>"His mother's name was Isabelle Moir, daughter of Walter Moir, her lineage
>can be traced as far back as 1660, when Johnnie [3] Moir was shot at the
>Walk Mill[4] of Balvenie defending his house.[5] A gravestone in the
>Churchyard at Mortlach gives the same statement. His son and son's son had
>followed the same line and continued farming in the Glen. His crops enticed
>the cattle to come down at unseasonable times and he built dykes round his
>fields, so that the Farm got the name of Moirs Parks [6] and continued
>under that name until Walter took the farm of "Pit-Glassie" [7] in
>Auchindown."
>
>"Walter married a Miss Clark in his old age - and had by her two daughters
>Isabelle and Helen, the eldest was the mother of the late James Duncan,
>"Parkmore," who was the sixth child. The family consisted of John, Hugh,
>William, Helen, Robert, James, George, Walter, Isabella and Margaret. She
>seconded every kindly act which her husband proposed, kind and obliging,
>many a weary traveller got refreshment when they called at Drywells, none
>ever went away hungry or thirsty."
>
>"Her temper was calm, thoughtful and generous. All who knew her had only
>one opinion, that she was the friend of the friendless and soother of the
>burdened mind of those who were afflicted. Her name still remains as a
>household one by the few remaining who knew her worth. I may with propriety
>transcribe what a cousin of mine wrote on the departure of her sister Helen
>who died January 13th, 1863. "She will be greatly missed and by none moreso
>than by ourselves should we ever be spared to revisit Cabrach, she is the
>last link of a chain by which the old and the leal and the kindest-hearted
>of our relatives were held together; but she has gone to a world of Bliss
>where a crown of glory awaits her as a reward for goodness on earth, for
>surely if ever any one inherited by a well spent life endless plebicity in
>the realms above it is our dear departed and much lamented Aunt."
>
>
>Walter Moir and Helen Clark, mentioned in the above memoir as parents of
>Isabel (Moir) Duncan, were married at Knockando, Moray, 17 August 1778 (or
>1779?...I need to check this). As above, Walter was claimed to be a
>descendant of Johne Moir, Waulkmill of Balvenie. Isabel Moir was baptized
>at Mortlach in June, 1780. Her sister, Helen, was christened 25 July 1784
>at Mortlach, and married William Taylor of Boghead, Cabrach.[8] Helen died
>13 January 1863.
>..................................................................
>
>[1] Witnesses' names for John and subsequent siblings from microfilm of
>Cabrach OPR as transcribed - perhaps faultily - by me
>
>[2] Dr. H. B. L. Russell (Edinburgh) in correspondence with me dated the
>marriage at 10 Aug. 1799, and noted that Isabel was "of Mortlach."
>
>[3] should be "Johne"
>
>[4] Waulkmill
>
>[5] In another letter, (copy sent to me by Ian Shearer, Edinburgh), Moir
>referred to the murderers as "the Cateran band."
>
>[6] Moir's explanation of the farm name is interesting, but runs counter to
>a more likely etymology of "Parkmore," in which "mor" means "large," as
>opposed to "beg," meaning "small" (as in "Parkbeg, the neighbouring farm).
>I wonder if the "Park" refers to the nearby Lochpark?
>
>[7] Pitglassie
>
>[8] William's son, John Taylor of Boghead, kept a diary, excerpts from
>which were printed in booklet form (a copy is in the University of Aberdeen
>library or archives, I believe).
>
>
>
>
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