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From: "Patricia" <>
Subject: Re: [MORIPLEY] Edith Murrell
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 22:12:53 -0600
References: <200511090714826.SM03080@mattpatt>


Hi Matt,

Yes, I know we have a different lines. The lines are spelled different but
they were often interchanged. I call yours the Merrell Claypool line..
lol.. Mine the Murrell Foy line. However, there are a few interesting
connections such as the Parishs that seemed to have married both lines. What
I don't know is if the Parish lines connect a generation or two out of
Weakley Co TN. I know my line came from Ireland and there is another line
that appears to be English that did travel a very similar migration path.
They are often confused just as the Murrell/Merrells. Maybe one day we can
compare notes on the Parish line.

My Parish line can be found in Limestone Co AL at the Sims Settlement.. they
traveled with the Murrell, Foys, Taylors, Sims, Parish, Johnsons and others
from AL. to Weakley Co TN to Graves CO KY and finally to MO AR state line.
They founded the Glaze Creek Church after they arrived here in Randolph Co
AR.. Unfortunately there does not seem to be any records that have survived.
Knob Creek Church records in Weakley Co have been a big help in documenting
the movement to Weakley Co TN.

Interestingly we have yet another connection Martha Merrell married
Thomas Marion Spencer. Thomas was a brother to my gggf Charles McNairy
Spencer. There is a Mahala MERRELL, daughter of John Claypool
Merrell....... I don't know who her mother was and if she was the same
Martha daughter of Sarah Patterson. I have not been able to clear that
connection up. Maybe you can. I know that John Claypool Merrell was
married at least twice but not sure which children went to which wife. Was
there both a Martha and a Mahala or a Mahala Martha Merrell?

Thank you for replying. I just don't know if I will every find out who
Edith married. I have been lucky to track down a descendent for most of the
descendents of William A Murrell my gggf that lived at Dry Springs, MO and
had a post office there for many years. Our families did not live very far
apart and one would have to wonder if they were not connected. I know your
uncle ( I am drawing a blank tonight) Patterson was really very firm they
are not related. I have had a really hard time trying to find a connection
for William A. I know BJ...(there the name is .. lol.. don't every get old.)
told me they came through TN and it just seemed like they had to be
related.. especially when he told me of the law suit the Merrells had back
there.

I think I have located William's line. I may never find the paper trail
that I would like to but William A was in MO by 1820 which is before your
line was I believe. Because there was no census back them, MO was not a
state it is going to be hard to prove. However, I did find where a Richard
Murrell bought land in 1823 in MO. That might be the best I can do. Worse
than that Ripley Co was actually AR for many years..

My dad told me that his grandfather used to say he was born and raised in MO
and died in AR and never moved. History does not bear that our but it would
if he had said born and raised in AR and died in MO and never moved........
so many things just got reversed over the years... Even so my best knowledge
they always lived in MO close to the state line.

Even the Murrell cemetery is still in MO and right close to where the old
Military Road ran by the Murrell homestead and post office.

Which brings me to another question .. does your family have a Merrell
cemetery? if so do you know where it is? Have you every been there? Do you
know who is buried there? I have come to believe there is both a Murrell
and a Merrell cemetery.... they don't seem to be in the same place. Doyle
Reddick was going to take me there but we never got together in good weather
and then he got sick and passed away. In the mean time I have found it but
it is almost totally destroyed. The pine trees have been harvested and the
ground left with big holes and gravestones missing. One was sitting out
under a tree.... my ggp grave had been dug into. My grandfather always
told me the land was deeded to the state but I guess if they had no desire
in maintaining the cemetery they had no responsibility to do so. My dad
estimated that there was probably at least 150 graves there.. many without
grave stones as it was used by travelers on the Military Road.

One more thing. I found a deed at the Doniphan Court house for the sale of a
slave from John B Murrell to William A Murrell for a female slave named Mary
Ann aged 17 date of sale was June 17, 1858. Do you know if this was your
family? I know that was another difference as far as I can tell, your
Merrells had lots of slaves and were very wealthy. My line did not have
slaves and were not wealthy. However, I believe this exchange was between
John Bartlett Murrell and my gggf William A Murrell. The half interest that
my gggf deeded was inherited from his grandmother in TN and that Mary Ann
was probably never in AR but in TN where John Murrell was. Do you have an
opinion on that document? Do either of those names fit any members of your
family? I know you had a William too but I think the time line was
different. Your William H Murrell was born 29 years after William and
would not have been of legal age in 1858.

It is good to hear from you. I hope you and your new bride are having a
great times together.

Sincerely,

Pat Mata




----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Patterson" <>
To: <>
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 7:13 AM
Subject: RE: [MORIPLEY] Edith Murrell


> Patricia,
>
> Some of my of my family married into the Merrell's. However, I'm unable
> to
> find any of the names you mention. I found this page on the internet that
> goes into details about some of the descendants of some of the Murrell's
> I'm
> kin to. Check it out and see if you recognize any names. Also note how
> the
> name is spelled.
> http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:mYl5wtP53w0J:genealogy.patp.us/wmde.shm
> +Descendants+of+William+and+Grace+Merrill&hl=en
>
> Matt Patterson
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Patricia [mailto:]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 5:40 AM
> To:
> Subject: [MORIPLEY] Edith Murrell
>
> I am looking for the children of Edith Murrell, the daughter of Ed
> Murrell. She had siblings, Elmer, Floyd and Christine. Elmer, and Floyd
> are both dead. Aunt Wilma Murrell Baker, my aunt thinks that Christine
> probably is too.
>
> I know Edith married and moved away. I heard that she moved away after she
> got married to St Louis or IL she may have had one child and later twins.
> She died not too long after that. I think her sons may still be alive but
> now one seems to know who she married...... do you or any one know. I sure
> would like to find them that is one line that I don't have any descendents
> for. She was born about 1916.
>
> If anyone has any information on Edith or her descendents I would really
> like to hear from you. Any clues are appreciated.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Patricia Murrell Mata
>
>
>
>
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