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From: "Pat Freeman" <>
Subject: Re: [MURPHY-L] Closed-mouthed Murphys (Pat)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 16:51:13 -0600
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I have to agree with you Kathleen, they struggled in Ireland,England and
then came here to the American Rev. and Civil War. Some came freely and some
came as prisoners. I think they did not want later generations to know what
they came from.A new start and no looking back .....pat


----- Original Message -----
From: "Kathleen Frailey Puls" <>
To: <>
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: [MURPHY-L] Closed-mouthed Murphys (Pat)


> Just some thoughts - perhaps the "closed mouthed" trait of your Murphys
> and
> others like them is a result of their ancestors' former struggles in
> Ireland
> with the English invaders - having their freedom and livelihoods ripped
> away
> and finally emigrating to America as a consequence. This might explain
> their
> lack of trust, fearfulness and secretiveness - being handed down through
> the
> generations. I am descended from Murphys from Co. Meath who settled in
> Iowa
> and though my mother tends to be secretive, which I attribute to her not
> only being Irish but being from an older generation, you can try and break
> the chain by teaching your children and grandchildren to not be fearful of
> being open with their feelings - it's never too late. Kathleen
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 2:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [MURPHY-L] Closed-mouthed Murphys (Pat)
>
>
>> Crystal,
>>
>> I have to agree with you on everything you said. It seems the Murphy's
>> seemed to think they were a "one of a kind"... I have been reading all
>> the
>> different posts and seems all Murphy's carry the majority of the same
>> traits....arguing and fighting among the families, restless feet and legs
> (couldn't stay in
>> one place very long ... I wonder why?), migraines, various illnesses,
>> same
>> characteristics and opinions, and the list goes on and on.
>>
>> My Murphy's seemed to have the "I don't want anyone to know" attitude
> about
>> everything. No wills in my generation or the grandparents, no letters,
>> no
>> family Bibles, nothing written down anywhere except in a few legal
> documents, but
>> even then, they only gave the bare minimum...just initials if they could
> get
>> away with it. I realize that public records can be destroyed in various
>> ways....but between, birth, marriage, school, divorce, death, land
> /property
>> transactions, church, and any number of other public sources, it is hard
> to believe
>> that there are no traces of some of our families, considering the number
> of
>> children that were normally born.
>>
>> What is sad is knowing that I can already see the majority of those same
>> traits in my own grown children and grandchildren. Will it ever end?
> Sure, one
>> day, but not in our lifetime...but in the next.
>>
>> Up until last year all I knew was that one of my grandmothers' name was
>> Minnie Mae Murphy...never knew her as she died 22 years before I was
>> born.
> Yes, I
>> was one of the products of a 2nd marriage, which caused a big split. And
>> having cousins that were closer to my mom's age than mine (a half-brother
> that is
>> only 8 years younger than my mother was and to this day, I don't know
> where he
>> is. I just found out last week his birthdate).
>>
>> And like you, I keep searching for my past ancestors...I know they are
>> out
>> there somewhere. I wish I were able to help you with your Murphy's,
> however, as
>> of now I don't even know my own.
>>
>> Good luck on your search and know one thing...."I Wish You Enough"
>> http://www.bobperks.com/wish.htm
>>
>> Billie Kornacki
>>
>>
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