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Subject: Re: [MURPHY] MURPHY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 50
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 15:57:07 +0000


How does one go about the DNA? I have a Lizzie Murphy b/1855, Md, who married Louis Clarence Deems in Maryland. I believe her father was Thomas Murphy b/1835 (census). Thomas was born in Ireland. Wife unknown.
Evelyn

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> 1. Murphy/O'Hara (~Pat~)
> 2. Re: MURPHY information (Stacey Wilner)
> 3. Re: MURPHY information (Stacey Wilner)
> 4. Re: MURPHY information (Sharon)
> 5. Re: MURPHY information (Sharon)
> 6. Re: MURPHY information (Joanie Hartman)
> 7. Re: MURPHY information (Jerry W. Murphy)
> 8. Re: MURPHY information POLL ()
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 22:25:32 -0400
> From: "~Pat~"
> Subject: [MURPHY] Murphy/O'Hara
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> I also have a Murphy and OHara connection. Descending from John Murphy and
> Mary Ann O'Hara who immigrated about 1850 and finally settled in Allegany
> Co, MD. They had 10 children.
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> Any connection with anyone out there?
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> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 23:05:35 -0400
> From: "Stacey Wilner"
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> > Black Irish are Native American's who did not want to be identified with
> > Native Americans but did not want to be known as white.
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> >From the historical records that I have read, this is a term used by several
> ethnicities...Black Irish, Black Dutch, Black German etc.
>
> Some say it was used to keep the Cherokees that married into caucasion
> families from having to migrate to Oklahoma.
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> Others say that it was in reference to descendants of the Spanish Armada.
> (although I believe that this has been proven to be an urban legend,
> evidently there were no survivors...but unless you were there, whose to say)
>
> And a few say it was a term used in reference to families members of
> African, Native American, Portugese descent--any race that had darker skin
> than British Isle ancestry. It was an attempt at social acceptance in a
> predominately British society.
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> Has anyone heard of the Irish Travelers? They are of gypsy or Hungarian
> ancestry. Have sometimes wondered if this could be the source of the genetic
> tendancy towards dark hair and blue eyes. Also, I believe there is a
> connection between Spanish and the Irish culture--seems as though some of
> the Spanish invaded and ruled the area for awhile. Perhaps they brought
> friends that stayed and became a part of the genetic pool. :)
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> Perhaps Beverly has some insight from the DNA testing?
>
> Interesting, to say the least.
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> Best,
> Stacey
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> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 22:46:06 -0400
> From: "Stacey Wilner"
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> Mine are of the "dark Irish" variety, with blue eyes...not a red head among
> us.
> >From the Caswell NC bunch,
> Stacey Murphy Wilner
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> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 22:39:31 -0500
> From: "Sharon"
> Subject: Re: [MURPHY] MURPHY information
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> Long before the Spanish Armada would have "visited" the British Isles,
> Rome invaded Britain. Romans =equal= Italians with dark hair and olive
> complexions. (Refer to Hadrian's Wall.) Some believe that Arthur (of
> Camelot fame) was actually a Roman soldier. But that's a discussion for
> another place and time...
> SharonW
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> Others say that it was in reference to descendants of the Spanish
> Armada.
> (although I believe that this has been proven to be an urban legend,
> evidently there were no survivors...but unless you were there, whose to
> say)
>
> Interesting, to say the least.
>
> Best,
> Stacey
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> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 22:44:17 -0500
> From: "Sharon"
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> My grandfather had blue blue blue eyes too! None of the rest of us
> inherited them, though. (Drat!) But so far DNA hasn't connected us to
> the NC Murphys. (We're #58169 - in case anyone ever matches to us!)
> SharonW
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> Mine are of the "dark Irish" variety, with blue eyes...not a red head
> among
> us.
> >From the Caswell NC bunch,
> Stacey Murphy Wilner
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> Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 20:35:34 -0800
> From: Joanie Hartman
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> No red hair that I know of but I've only seen pictures of my
> grandmother. She married a Scotsman who had light red hair. My Murphys
> were in Brooklyn, New York...I'd love to find more of them...
>
> Joanie
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> Stacey Wilner wrote:
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> >Mine are of the "dark Irish" variety, with blue eyes...not a red head among
> >us.
> >>From the Caswell NC bunch,
> >Stacey Murphy Wilner
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> Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 00:17:01 -0500
> From: "Jerry W. Murphy"
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> My gg-grandfather Sylvester Murphy had dark brown hair while his brother,
> William (also my gg-grandfather), had red hair. Their ancestry is thought to
> be from Ballymena, County Antrim, Ireland (now Northern Ireland).
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> Jerry W. Murphy
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> Not in my line. I do have a niece, however, that has red hair (my sister's
> daughter). We believe the red hair came from my maternal grandfather,
> a Dane, who also had red hair.
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> My Murphy's all arrived here by way of New York and lived in Manhattan,
> Brooklyn, and later "da" Bronx and Mount Vernon, NY.
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> Dan Murphy
> IRELAND
> Coyle, Brigette
> Daugherty - Michael, Elizabeth, Ann
> Doyle - Katherine
> Fitzsimmons
> Harvey
> Murphy, George Washington (father & son)
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