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From: "Nora Agnes Kevan" <>
Subject: Re: [MUSKER] Melling Musker
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 16:36:05 +1100
References: <698120.35554.qm@web87113.mail.ird.yahoo.com>


Dear Dave
First, why do all your messages have A with a circumflex over it scattered
through them? It is very confusing because I use a program that has a voice
to read the screen!
Regarding the parents of the James Musker who married Mary Eatom, Lee and I
spent a long time trying to find where he fits in the Musker tree. Perhaps
you will have more success. It is possible that amongst you elderly
relatives there is one who remembers what her grandmother told her. I say
her, as in my experience it is the old ladies who remember family stories
from way back. I suggest you write to everyone you can asking for any
scraps of family lore!

Traditional the English naming pattern in the past was similar to the
Scottish one where the eldest son is named after his father's father, and
the second son after the mother's father, then the third son is named after
the father.For the daughters it was the opposite. However the English
mothers often missed out perhaps they were not as strong minded as their
Scottish neighbours.
Looking at James & Mary's sons, Thomas, James and George, Mary Eaton's
father was a George so that seems to indicate that James father was Thomas!,
However son Thomas appears to gave gone against tradition and named his
eldest son John, (perhaps after his wife's father whose name we do not
know.His second son Thomas after himself and his third after his maternal
grandfather. Does this mean he had quarrelled with his father?

I hope you are able to get back a little further and will share your
discoveries with us. In the meantime I am sending you a separate message
with the Eaton family tree,. Unfortunately I have lost touch with the family
who sent it to me.

Regards, Nora

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Musker" <>
To: <>
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 1:08 AM
Subject: Re: [MUSKER] Melling Musker


Dear Gordon and Nora.
I am sorry if I am taking you off at a tangent, but I am new to this
research.
>From what I have gathered so far,my Great Grandfather was George Musker
(milk salesman) from the Walton area. My Grandfather was, I know, Thomas
Musker.
I remember my father (George John James Musker) telling me that his father
Thomas lived in Lilly Grove, Walton - which is very close to St. Mary's
Lane. I wonder if there is a close relationship between him,or his fatherÂ
and Melling Musker ?
Best wishes
David.
 Â

--- On Thu, 20/11/08, GORDON MUSKER <> wrote:

From: GORDON MUSKER <>
Subject: Re: [MUSKER] Melling Musker
To:
Date: Thursday, 20 November, 2008, 7:52 AM

Dear Nora,
I'm not sure that my first version of this was sent correctly so here's
a
repeat.

Yes, you're correct. Ann was married to Henry Allen in 1866:-

Name: Henry Allen
Year of Registration: 1866
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: West Derby
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 840

Name: Ann Musker
Year of Registration: 1866
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: West Derby
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 840

Regards


Gordon

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nora Agnes Kevan" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 4:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [MUSKER] Melling Musker
>
>
>> Hello Gordon
>> We also have Ann Allen nee Musker in 1881
>> 1881 CENSUS 15 St Marys Lane: Walton On Hill, Lancashire, England
>>
>> Source FHL Film 1341883 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 3687 Folio 78 Page 23
>>
>> Marr Age Sex Birthplace
>>
>> Ann ALLEN M 35 F Walton, Lancashire, England Rel: Head Occ: Captains
Wife
>>
>> Mary ALLEN U 14 F Walton, Lancashire, England Rel: Dau
>>
>> Henry ALLEN U 13 M Walton, Lancashire, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar
>>
>> Thomas ALLEN U 9 M Walton, Lancashire, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar
>>
>> James ALLEN U 6 M Walton, Lancashire, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar
>>
>> Frederick ALLEN U 4 M Walton, Lancashire, England Rel: Son Occ:
Scholar
>>
>> Henry WILCKE W 42 M Germany Rel: Lodger Occ: Mechanical Engineer
>>
>> It would be interesting if anyone could find her marriage so ad to
>> ascertain
>> her husband's name. It might be 1866 Q2 0 West Derby 840. 8b It
looks as
>> though he was at sea in the 1871 and 1881 . Has anyone access to the
1991
>> and or 1901. I cannot look them up for myself.
>>
>> Regards, Nora
>>
>> ,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "GORDON MUSKER" <>
>> To: <>
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 5:22 AM
>> Subject: [MUSKER] Melling Musker
>>
>>
>> For anyone who is working on the Melling Musker branch and wonders
where
>> he
>> was in 1871, I've found him transcribed from the 1871 census as
Melling
>> Ancker living with his married sister, Ann.
>> I've checked the original and the Ancker IS Musker
>>
>>
>> 1871 England Census
>> Melling Ancker in the transcript but Musker in the original.
>> Name: Melling Musker
>> Age: 27
>> Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
>> Relation: Brother
>> Gender: Male
>> Where born: Walton, Lancashire, England
>> Civil Parish: Walton On The Hill
>> Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
>> County/Island: Lancashire
>> Country: England
>> Street address: St Mary's Lane
>> Occupation: Mariner
>> Condition as to marriage: Single
>> Registration district: West Derby
>> Sub registration district: Walton
>> Household Members:
>> Name Age
>> Ann Allen 25 Head Married
>> Mary Allen 4
>> Harry Allen 3
>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
>> Melling Musker 27 brother
>> Edward Musker 14 brother
>> Mary Musker 17 sister
>> Fanny Musker 11 sister
>> Martha Musker 12 sister
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Gordon
>>
>>
>>
>>
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