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From: Margaret Nex <>
Subject: Re: Mariners-D Digest V99 #345
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 21:17:03 -0700


Have enjoyed reading all the messages, but this is not the site I should be on...good luck...

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> Mariners-D Digest Volume 99 : Issue 345
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> Today's Topics:
> #1 [Mariners-L] {not a subscriber} Ca [TODD-EGGLESTONE <]
> #2 Re: [Mariners-L] HOW TO UNSUBSCRIB ["Peter Galbraith" <P.S.Galbraith@b]
> #3 [Mariners-L] RE - Campbels and Bri ["Martin Southwood" <Martin.Southwo]
> #4 [Mariners-L] Where do I find this? [Sheila Mcmahon <]
> #5 Unidentified subject! ["clare mckillop" <.]
> #6 [Mariners-L] Re: Sailmakers appren [Lars Bruzelius <]
> #7 [Mariners-L] Bremen steamer MINOS ["Hilary Godber" <]
> #8 Re: [Mariners-L] ROYAL NAVY SHIPS ["Peter Galbraith" <P.S.Galbraith@b]
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> Subject: [Mariners-L] {not a subscriber} Captains Register
> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 13:19:13 +0100
> From: TODD-EGGLESTONE <> (by way of (Ted Finch.) by way of (Ted Finch.))
> To:
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> I know I have asked this question before but here goes again.
>
> Could someone please look up the Captains Register for a Henry William
> CUMMINGS (Cert No. 2749 issued 19/10/1951 No of Register Ticket 33207).
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> Regards
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> Paul (Sydney)
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> Subject: Re: [Mariners-L] HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE
> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 13:35:10 +0100
> From: "Peter Galbraith" <>
> To:
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> > From:
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> > Subject: Re: [Mariners-L] HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE
> > Date: 19 July 1999 01:49
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> > UNSUBSCRIBE
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> and from Mervyn Britton to the same address:-
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> unsubscribe
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> I'm sorry but I find it quite incredible that, after the Charlie Bashow
> debacle, there are still people on this list that do not know how to
> unsubscribe and, to make matters worse, have actually used the list-owners
> definitive message on how to do it, and then have mucked it up!!!!!!!!
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> Please, if you've still got the instructions, follow them and don't clutter
> up the list!
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> Regards
> Valerie Galbraith
> Tunbridge Wells, Uk
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> Subject: [Mariners-L] RE - Campbels and Bristol Channel vessels
> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 16:22:24 +0100
> From: "Martin Southwood" <>
> To:
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> For those showing an interest in the Bristol Channel steamers of P. &
> A. Campbell, there are still two vessels that (fairly) regularly ply the
> day trip routes across the Severn Sea.
>
> The "Balmoral", albeit a motor vessel, belongs now to the Paddle
> Steamer Preservation Society and was, I believe, originally one of
> Campbells. The other is the "Waverly", a genuine paddle steamer and the
> last sea going one in the world. She was originally built for the old
> London and North Eastern Railway.
>
> The "Waverly" can be seen around the UK coast during the summer
> months, anywhere from the Inner Hebrides, (I have seen her sailing up to
> Fort William), the Clyde, Bristol Channel, South Coast and the Thames
> Estuary. The Bristol Channel ports often called at include Clevedon,
> Penarth, Barry, Minehead, sometimes Watchet, Lynmouth, Ilfracombe and out
> to Lundy Island. About three weeks ago, she broke down while on a day trip
> and had to be towed into Barry for repairs but was operational again within
> two/three days.
>
> Hope this is of interest,
>
> Martin Southwood in Essex
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> Subject: [Mariners-L] Where do I find this?
> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 13:11:24 -0400
> From: Sheila Mcmahon <>
> To:
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> My only other suggestion is to read Debbie's guide to Tracing Merchant
> Seamen, published regularly.
> I'd love to be able to find my JOHN KING PEIRCE b.1789 Ireland, Capt.
> of
> the Brig, GOVERNOR WOOFORD in 1817....maybe it's there?
> Doris Peirce <>
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> Subject: Unidentified subject!
> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 99 18:10:47 PDT
> From: "clare mckillop" <>
> To:
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> A little while ago there was a message asking about sailmakers apprenticeships.
>
> They would certainly have learnt the trade ashore. There were sail lofts in all the Naval Dockyards and most of the biggest ports and these could have trained people to go afloat. The cramped conditions onboard ship would not have been conducive to learning anything.
>
> Each long haul vessel usually carried two suits of sails, the newer one for use in the higher latitudes, the old ones for use in the tropics where the stronger sun, and other conditions wore them out more quickly. The sailmakers job on board was not only to repair anything that got damaged but also to make a complete new suit of sails during the trip.
>
> The rate of sailmaker continued in the Royal Navy until the 1950's even though all naval vessels were powered by then. They were occupied making gun covers, flags, awnings or kit bags for the crew for the princely sum of 20 cigarettes.
>
> Hope this reaches the original lister,
>
> regards,
> cmck
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> Subject: [Mariners-L] Re: Sailmakers apprenticeships
> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 19:56:29 +0200
> From: Lars Bruzelius <>
> To:
>
> At 18:10 1999-07-19 PDT, "clare mckillop" <> wrote:
> >A little while ago there was a message asking about sailmakers
> apprenticeships.
> >
> >They would certainly have learnt the trade ashore. There were sail lofts
> in all the Naval Dockyards and most of the biggest ports and these could
> have trained people to go afloat. The cramped conditions onboard ship
> would not have been conducive to learning anything.
> <snip>
>
> This is generally not true. There are numerous examples of sailmakers who
> had learned their trade as sailors. Usually the sailmaker onboard a ship
> would be assisted in sewing a new sail by unskilled seamen who where
> selected for the task. In this way they would learn the basics in cutting
> and sewing sails. It is also well-known that the master took great pride in
> cutting a new sail together with the sailmaker.
>
> As an example can be mentioned that the ships of the Gustav Erikson fleet
> sailing ships had entire suits of sails sewn aboard by the sailmaker and
> his assistants.
>
> See e.g. Kurt Skogberg's "Bogsvall och kölvatten" published by Ålands
> tidningstryckeri, Mariehamn, in 1998. In this work the author tells the
> story of his maternal grandfather's, the legendary sailmaker John
> Sommarström, more than fity years at sea.
>
> Lars Bruzelius
>
> UDAC AB,
> Box 174,
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> Sweden.
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> Subject: [Mariners-L] Bremen steamer MINOS (was: George Henry Nash)
> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 18:51:19 +0100
> From: "Hilary Godber" <>
> To:
>
> I have mailed a personal reply to Michael Palmer to thank him for the
> information he sent about the Bremen steamer MINOS but I also wanted to
> thank him publicly.
>
> I am fairly new to the net in general and Mariners-L in particular and this
> was the first time I had ever posted a query. I could hardly believe that
> such a request could have such wonderful results.
>
> Thank you, Michael and thank you, Mariners-L
> HilaryG
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> Subject: Re: [Mariners-L] ROYAL NAVY SHIPS 1906 - 1909
> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 23:54:14 +0100
> From: "Peter Galbraith" <>
> To:
>
> Dear Juanita
>
> I saved your message from June but only now have I found the time to reply
> to it. You may already have received some information on the ships you
> mention but if you are still looking for something on HMS Boscawen I have a
> little information you may be interested in.
>
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> > From: Juanita Hadwin <>
> > To:
> > Subject: [Mariners-L] ROYAL NAVY SHIPS 1906 - 1909
> > Date: 04 June 1999 04:14
> >
> > Dear Listers,
> >
> > Would anyone have information regarding the following ships on which my
> > great uncle George Edward DUCKER served between 1906 and 1909? His record
> > states "Date of entry Boy Service: 2 Jan. 1906". What is 'Boy service'?
> He
> > was aged 18/19 at the time.
> >
> > HMS Boscawen
> > HMS Sutlej
> > HMS Blenheim
> > HMS Pembroke
> > HMS Bulwark
> > HMS Duncan - Gt. uncle George died from a fall in 1909 while painting the
> > side of this ship at Malta, where he is buried in Kalkara Cemetery. Would
> > anyone know if this cemetery is a naval cemetery? We still have the
> > beautiful anchor decorated with Maltese lace & beadwork that was given in
> > his memory by his shipmates to my great grandparents after his death .
> >
> > Many thanks in advance.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Juanita Hadwin
> >
> >
> >
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