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From: timlatham2 <>
Subject: Re: [Mar] Fisher & Co. - ship owners.
Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2002 21:04:19 +0000
In-Reply-To: <007a01c1c318$4bc3a930$0659decb@misty>


Tony,

Since the vessels were registered at Liverpool it might be worth contacting
the Merseyside Maritime Museum, who claim to answer email enquiries on
their website at http://www.nmgm.org.uk/maritime/archives/archiveframeset.html

On your further query about finding details of losses, the most likely
source is Lloyd's List, details of which are on the Mariners website, and
also in the PORT facility on the National Maritime Museum website.

I have only a limited knowledge of Liverpool shipping but the name Fisher
crops up fairly frequently, for example in Fisher & Sprott of the 1870's.
It is possible that the Fisher of the Fisher & Co. of the 1840's was
either Capt.Wilson Fisher or his son Thomas Fisher. The former was a
Whitehaven mariner who also owned ships, and who married into the
Brocklebank family, Liverpool/Whitehaven shipowners/shipbuilders. The son
was Liverpool-based and became a partner in the Brocklebank firm in 1840,
subsequently changing his name to Thomas Brocklebank. Capt.Wilson Fisher
died in Oct.1844.

There is no connection of your vessels to James Fisher & Co., which was
started in Barrow in the mid 1840's but which only owned small coasting
schooners until the 1860's, when it expanded into ocean-going barques.

Finding histories of these small sailing ship fleets from this period is
very difficult, there generally being no single archive of company
documents. James Fisher & Co. had the largest fleet of sailing ships in the
UK, but the company has virtually no record of them, and the Brocklebank
history was only saved when some long-lost archives were found in the
family's possession in the 1950's. My approach would be to find the
Liverpool shipping register to get some names, addresses and possibly dates
of death from the share transactions, and then look for newspaper
obituaries, but this is only possible if you can go to UK archives.

Tim Latham
Seaton Carew
Through Mighty seas website : http://www.yachtingrid.demon.co.uk/index.html






At 12:02 04/03/02 +1100, Tony O'Grady wrote:
>Does anyone know where I might be able to find any information on the ship
>owners Fisher & Co.?
>
>I have come across them as the owners of several ships sailing from
>Liverpool in the 1830s & 1840s. The ships that I have identified as
>belonging to this company are:
>
>Indian Chief. 480 tons, built Montreal 1841
>Erin go bragh. 360 tons, built Sunderland 1939
>Coeur de Lion. 352 tons,built Maryport 1834.
>
>Tony O'Grady
>Melbourne.
>
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