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From: Paul Benyon <>
Subject: Re: [Mar] Naval service record abbreviations.
Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 23:45:13 +0000
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In-Reply-To: <NHBBIDMKGLHFFBPFKFEGCEOBECAA.dparsons@centrenet.co.uk>


Hi Derrick

You asked:

>Under GC badges worn: What does G1 mean and how long were these badges worn for? He seems to
>have had a few throughout his service.

Up to 3 GCBs or Good Conduct Badges were awarded to RN personnel (6
badges at this date for RMs) at various intervals through a man's
career and attracted an additional penny or so a day each to one's pay
packet. Depending on the period depends the number of years required
to obtain each badge, but the dates alongside each award should give
you an idea. At some dates it was every 4 years, at others I think
it could be after 3, 5 and 5 years, or variations on this theme,
depending on what Their Lordships were trying to achieve: see the
following URL for details of extra pay due for GCBs in 1879:

http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/Navy_List_1879/Addl_Allces.html

Bad conduct could mean that badges might be taken away or deprived, or
could delay the award of future badges.

>Under Remarks:
>One entry reads "£2.10s0p C.G. Mid Tr 1880".

CG = Clothing Gratuity - I would think that Mid Tr = mid training ?

>Another reads "£3.10s0p C.G & B Nids (Meds?)"

C.G & B = Clothing and Bedding Gratuity -
Nids (Meds?) - ISTR we are having problems working out what this might
mean.

>"Traced Med" What does that mean?

Not a clue - when was it used in respect of his career ?

>Yet another reads "£5 OG".

OG = could be outfit gratuity paid to a Chief Petty Officer ? Does
the date paid tie in with anything else on the Service Record - the
date might not be exact, but possibly close ?

>And aanother "W over 3 yrs".

Sorry - no idea

>Last one "Traced Pens". This one a month after he left the service.

Traced Pens - possibly traced or verified pension record, ie so that
he could be paid his pension - a bit of a guess though !

>I note that he was "shore pensioned". What does this mean? And is there
>any way of finding out about his pension?

This would probably be in contrast to a pensioner who continued to
work in the Navy, but ashore, perhaps in the dockyard or in HMS Asia
etc. This seems to be quite common in those days, but was
discontinued in later years, possibly after the Great War.

Regards

Paul

On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 17:07:24 -0000, "Derrick Parsons"
<> wrote:

>Dear list,
>
>My great grandfather's service record, covering the period 1880 to 1900,
>contains some abbreviations I don't understand. I've listed them below in
>the hope that someone can help decipher them.
>
>Under GC badges worn:
>What does G1 mean and how long were these badges worn for? He seems to
>have had a few throughout his service.
>
>Under Remarks:
>One entry reads "£2.10s0p C.G. Mid Tr 1880".
>Another reads "£3.10s0p C.G & B Nids (Meds?)"
>"Traced Med" What does that mean?
>Yet another reads "£5 OG".
>And aanother "W over 3 yrs".
>Last one "Traced Pens". This one a month after he left the service.
>
>I note that he was "shore pensioned". What does this mean? And is there
>any way of finding out about his pension?
>
>Lots of questions, I'm afraid, but hopefully someone will be able to cast
>some light.
>
>Many thanks in advance.
>
>Derrick Parsons
>
>
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