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From: "Elizabeth G. Brett" <>
Subject: RE: [Melungeon] Inquiry/ sweats and such
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 17:44:58 -0500


Also!

What I said about using marijuana and tobacco is NOT what I have learned
from traditional Natives for the most part...but from studying herbal
medicines and chemical components for years.

Some of these things are well documented like the medical uses of
marijauana.

Elizabeth

-----Original Message-----
From:Lisa R. Ellis [SMTP:]
Sent:Thursday, February 01, 2001 12:00 PM
To:
Subject:Re: [Melungeon] Inquiry/ sweats and such

this brings up a question for me, that i know that i heard, but i am
getting the cultures mixed up i think... i know that green stands for
growth and fertility-at least i think it does, or maybe, they colors are
not significant here, but they seem to be.. what do the black, white, red,
green, yellows stand for in these cases? and, do all tribes commonly
believe that these colors stand for the same thing, or is it different for
each tribe?? also, i know that marijuana is used for insecticide, and
glaucoma... but what other medicinal uses are tobacco used for?? i know i
should know this question, but, maybe because of the chronic abuse and many
many illnesses in my family because of tobacco, i think i am blocking out
any "good" that tobacco could have.... i am not a marijuana smoker, but
because of it's far more useful medicinal options, i would think that
native americans would be more appreciative of that, then the tobacco.....

Tabitha Holmes wrote:

> Well, said Joe!!! This stuff is very important :) -Tabitha
>
> --- Joe Showalter <> wrote:
> > Tabitha and Clint already answered this question very well, I'm not
> > going to
> > try to improve on it. I would only like to emphasize respect, as
> > Tabitha
> > and Clint pointed out, show respect for everyone especially elders.
> > If you
> > get invited to Sweat Lodge be sure and thank the person who invited
> > you (and
> > lay down tobacco) it's a great honor. The tribes here are Odawa and
> > Ojibwa
> > and I am neither so I am very grateful for an invitation. I always
> > tie up
> > tobacco in yellow, red, black and white cotton cloth to show my
> > gratitude
> > and respect for person that invited me as well as the four
> > directions. If
> > you have never participated in a ceremony, but have read all about
> > it, don't
> > pretend to know what's going on. Be like a child and learn; watch
> > and
> > listen. Of course when the door of the Sweat Lodge closes you won't
> > have
> > the ability to see anything let alone watch it, but there will be a
> > lot to
> > listen to. One last thing; if you have an appointment or you made
> > arrangements for right after the Sweat, don't even bother going. It
> > ain't
> > like church, starts at 9:30 over at 11:00 and dinner at 12:30.
> > Things
> > happen as they should, and everything happens for a reason.
> >
> > Until just about six months ago, white folks weren't allowed to go to
> > Sweats
> > here. Now they can go if they are in the family, like a husband or
> > wife. I
> > like the change of rules because my two best friends are married to
> > each
> > other and Ben is not Indian and Silvia is. She is Mexican Indian and
> > I was
> > going to tell you what tribe but now I can't remember. Let me tell
> > you,
> > it's not the legs that are the first to go. Anyway Ben was set to go
> > to his
> > first Sweat and was pretty excited but the night before, Silvia
> > started her
> > period early. But that was ok, because Ben could still go with me.
> > I
> > started out that morning, I have to travel 50 miles to Ben and
> > Silvia's
> > house and then another 30 miles to the Sweat Lodge, and I blew a
> > radiator
> > hose less than a mile from home. Ben didn't get to go. Things
> > happen as
> > they should, and everything happens for a reason. We don't always
> > know why.
> >
> > Peace --Joe
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Roger <>
> > To: <>
> > Date: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 11:26 PM
> > Subject: [Melungeon] Inquiry
> >
> >
> > >For you knowledgeable American Indian types on the list. Could you
> > please
> > tell me in today's world what are: Pow Wow's, Sweat Lodges, how are
> > you
> > named an Indian name, and how, by who? Can outsiders attend any of
> > their
> > functions without being shunned? Do
> > >you have to have a sponsor?
> > >
> > >Roger
> > >
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