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From: "Donalyn Snelling" <>
Subject: Re: [Melungeon] Melungeon DNA Study Results
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 20:50:55 +0000

Or should I say "expiring minds" don't want to wait for the book. >From: "Donalyn Snelling" <> >To: >Subject: Re: [Melungeon] Melungeon DNA Study Results >Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 20:46:27 +0000 > >Hi Tim, > >Can you give me a hint as to what families you find back to 1607 and maybe >going forward to 1660? Inquiring minds don't want to have to wait for your >book. > >Cheers, >Donalyn Barniro Snelling > > >>From: >>To: >>Subject: Re: [Melungeon] Melungeon DNA Study Results >>Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 14:42:12 EDT >> >>I oppose very strongly the definitions of "hard liner". I have always >>acknowledged that Melungeons are capable of having multiple ethnic DNA. >>But >>I maintain that Melungeons ORIGINATED in the early to mid 17th century in >>tidewater Virginia as northern Europeans intermarried with West Africans >>and >>native Americans of the Atlantic seaboard of the eastern US. I have >>repeatedly and constantly said that Turks, Portuguese, Spaniards, or >>anyone >>else under the sun could have LATER merged with these Melungeon ancestors. >>If I am being lumped as a "hard liner" I protest. >> >>Furthermore, reading the groundless conjecture in this AP story about >>Santa >>Elena I must take issue with such comments as "I can honestly say I would >>not >>change anything in the article except for including that the females that >>were in those Spanish colonies must have contributed to the mix." There >>remains absolutely positively NO direct genealogical or DNA descent >>between >>an individual of Santa Elena or other pre 1607 Spanish colony and a single >>Melungeon. >> >>Furthermore I would like Dennis to clarify what he means when he talks >>about >>hardliners and "about Melungeon origins." What time span does he mean by >>"origins"? Does he mean a general time before 1800 during which >>Melungeons >>originated, or does he mean before 1607? I most strongly disagree that >>anyone other than American Indian ancestors of Melungeons lived in >>Virginia >>or the surrounding area before the Jamestown settlement in 1607. The only >>extremely remote possibility of such non-Indian intermarriage prior to >>Jamestown are the English survivors of Roanoke and I believe I effectively >>rule out that possibility in my new research. >> >>Tim Hashaw >> >>In a message dated 6/20/02 1:15:13 PM Central Daylight Time, >> writes: >> >> >> > I believe the hard-liners are the ones who deny that there were >>Euro-Asians >> > on the northern continent before the Anglo-Irish arrived. The ones >>that >> > deny the Melungeons existence before 1604. >> > EdrieAnne >> > >> > > Hello Dennis - Please elaborate as to who the hard-liners are that >>Mr. >> > > Winkler mentioned to you privately. Does he mean the Newmans >> > Ridge/Hancock >> > > Co. people who claim the name Melungeon as theirs alone? Or is there >> > another >> > > hard-line group re: Melungeon origins. Thanks you. Rick >> >> >> > I have yet to put aside the time to read everything more thoroughly, >> > but it appears--at first glance--that all of us were "right"--those >> > who believe the Melungeons are tri-racial (white, Black, Indian), as >> > well as those who believe there is additional Mediterranean (Turkish) >> > and other eastern (Indian, as in from India) ancestry! >> >>It was never an either/or situation. As Wayne Winkler remarked to me >>privately, the only people left out in the cold by the DNA results are the >>hard-liners with >> > I have yet to put aside the time to read everything more thoroughly, >> > but it appears--at first glance--that all of us were "right"--those >> > who believe the Melungeons are tri-racial (white, Black, Indian), as >> > well as those who believe there is additional Mediterranean (Turkish) >> > and other eastern (Indian, as in from India) ancestry! >> >>It was never an either/or situation. As Wayne Winkler remarked to me >>privately, the only people left out in the cold by the DNA results are the >>hard-liners with really narrow ideas about Melungeon origins. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >>==== Melungeon Mailing List ==== >>Melungeon Health Information >>Check it out!!!! >>http://www.melungeonhealth.org > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > >==== Melungeon Mailing List ==== >Melungeon Health Information >Check it out!!!! >http://www.melungeonhealth.org > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.