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From: Brent Kennedy <>
Subject: Re: [Melungeon] Re: Melungeon-D Digest V02 #1034
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 08:05:51 -0800 (PST)
In-Reply-To: <00a401c2b275$64b69400$999250d8@main>


Jack, Dennis, and Penny,
I know I'm not a part of this particular discussion thread, but it seems to me that the three of you are actually in agreement. When I read what each of you said in your original posts, then add them together, it pretty much reflects what you've all agreed to in the past (i.e., an original core group with kinship to others).
Re: your last post, Jack, I agree with just about all you say. One of the things I'd still love to see is a broader based release of individual DNA results (at least the haplotypes, given privacy issues). As promised, I will do this for mine as soon as I've completed all my work (I now have 12 of 16 great-great grandparents' mtDNA and Y lines sequenced, with a 13th now at FamilyTreeDNA). Eventually, we'll see more family studies as well, and that's where we'll truly get a detailed picture of our genetic heritage.
Jack, I was also struck by your statement that:
"I view these old pioneer settlers
struggling to survive in
the wilderness and I don't think they were hiding their race. I doubt if
they even thought about."

I agree with this. I suspect the only time they thought about it was when some racist idiot shoved it in their face as an excuse to mistreat them. But in general, they were just human beings doing their best to survive.



Brent


Jack Goins <> wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: Dennis Maggard
To:
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 8:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Melungeon] Re: Melungeon-D Digest V02 #1034


> From: "Penny Ferguson"

>
> > Well show me that this is true.(below) I know people in Hancock Co TN
who
> > had Native American heritage, and were never referred to as Melungeon,
> until later generations when they married in to some Melungeon families.
> Penny

I don't doubt that. What's your point? As to my point, well, you've helped
to prove it, to whatever extent it's not intuitively obvious: the
"indesputable" Melungeons were related to other mixed raced families.
Dennis
## Hello Dennis and List;
I agree that the Melungeons were related to other groups. I know this from
my own research and I believe Penny also knows this is factual. I also
know from my research several families who have a Melungeon forebearer as
well as
a Cherokee and other mixed nationalities in their tree and others that does
not connect to
any of the other surnames. In my opinion this was why Dr. Jones found the
Melungeons
to be multiracial, especially the mtDNA test. I will wager that the vast
majority of the
ones tested only had one Melungeon line. I have two known Melungeon lines
and
mtDNA misses both of them. I know Melungeon descendants cover a broad area
and
many are known only from their descendants who have used family history
to find those Melungeons who migrated and lost their Identity because they
did not accept
this name. Also, I don't think it's being honest to claim a connection to
any clan of tribe
unless you can show documentation to them. I don't mean to come across
hateful in my emails
I just have this show me attitude because I don't believe our history is
wrong. I am not saying
everything they wrote is the gospel truth. I view these old pioneer settlers
struggling to survive in
the wilderness and I don't think they were hiding their race. I doubt if
they even thought about.
Just my opinion from many years of researching these old colonial records.
Jack
.

>
>
> > considerably closerly in size to the former than to
> > the latter, there was a group of inter-related mixed race families
living
> on
> > the Cumberland Plateau as of the early 19th century to which the
> identified
> > in writing Melungeons were related and of which they were a part.
> >
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