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From: Barbara Ellison <>
Subject: Re: [Melungeon] Hiding ancestry
Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 20:27:51 -0600
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I understand that bad nasty things happened, but all I can say, again, is
that the europeans I refer to *chose* to do what they did...there lies the
rub.
B.
----- Original Message -----
From: "JECrain" <>
To: <>
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Melungeon] Hiding ancestry


> Barbara; Have you read the books I recommended? The atrocities make you
sick
> to your stomach, so if you can't take it, remain unaware. You sound like
> someone who has only heard or wanted to hear one side of the story. I know
> the issues here. I have Indian ancestors too. I hope someday to meet and
> embrace ALL my ancestors and say "Thank You" for enduring. For if you
> subtract ONE ancestor, you're not here.
>
> Janet Crain
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Barbara Ellison" <>
> To: "JECrain" <>; <>
> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 6:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [Melungeon] Hiding ancestry
>
>
> > They chose to do what they did...and at the risk of sounding hateful, I
> have
> > to say that what the Comanches and Apaches did had nothing to do with
what
> > europeans did...There is no comparison to be made...This continent
wasn't
> > *new* and open for others to come and take..it belonged to the people
who
> > lived here...
> > B.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "JECrain" <>
> > To: <>
> > Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 2:16 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Melungeon] Hiding ancestry
> >
> >
> > > Barbara; I think many see their white ancestry as dull and
> uninteresting,
> > > when if they really studied history they would be so surprised. No one
> had
> > > it easy, that's for sure. It took a lot of courage to sail to an
unknown
> > > land, knowing a voyage of 40 days awaited. Stuck in a 4 foot high
hold,
> > not
> > > allowed on deck, tossed on perilous waves like a cork. Smelling vomit
> and
> > > feces and human sweat for 40 days. Some were sick children or pregnant
> > > women. Many died. They did this seeking a better life. Most had never
> owed
> > a
> > > foot of land and their desire for land was a driving force that would
> push
> > > them further and further west. Just like the poor Germans who came
> ashore
> > at
> > > Galveston and Indianola on the Texas coast and found that the travel
> > > phamplets had mislead them and all the good land was gone and they
would
> > > have to walk 300 miles to the rocky, thin soiled areas around present
> day
> > > Fredricksburg. Never mind that the Comanches and Apaches had also
found
> > this
> > > a beautiful and pleasant place with plentiful game and gorgeous rivers
> and
> > > streams, pushing out the inhabitants 300 years before this. And I
think
> > the
> > > same thing happened 200 years earlier on the Eastern Seaboard. There's
> > > always two sides to every story and sometimes many more. It often
comes
> > down
> > > to a family trying to survive and make a better life for their
children.
> > And
> > > every story is fasinating.
> > >
> > > Janet Crain
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Barbara Ellison" <>
> > > To: <>
> > > Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 10:26 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Melungeon] Hiding ancestry
> > >
> > >
> > > > I haven't seen anyone on this list deny white ancestry..If you have,
> > tell
> > > me
> > > > who it is.
> > > > B.
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: <>
> > > > To: <>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 10:07 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Melungeon] Hiding ancestry
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > In a message dated 3/8/2003 10:38:12 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> > > > > writes:
> > > > >
> > > > > > ....A lot of white skinned
> > > > > > people now days who have Black blood are denying their African
> > > > > > ancestry...now *that* is racism...
> > > > > >
> > > > > Is it racism to deny black blood and your African ancestry but not
> > > racism
> > > > to
> > > > > deny your white blood and English ancestry? Is racism only one
> color?
> > > > >
> > > > > Joanne Pezzullo
> > > > > <A
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
HREF="http://www.geocities.com/ourmelungeons/front.html">http://www.geocitie
> > > > s.com/ourmelungeons/front.html</A>
> > > > > To weet a wicked villaine, bold and stout,
> > > > > Which wonned in a rocke not farre away,
> > > > > That robbed all the countrie there about,
> > > > > ---------------------------------
> > > > > For he so crafty was to forge and face,
> > > > > So light of hand, and nymble of his pace,
> > > > > So smooth of tongue, and subtile in his tale,
> > > > > That could deceive one looking in his face;
> > > > > Therefore by name Malengin they him call,
> > > > > Well knowen by his feates, and famous ouer all.
> > > > > ------------------------------
> > > > > Spencer's FAIRE QUEENE 1596
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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