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From: Dennis Maggard <>
Subject: Re: [MELUNGEON] The Meluneons - According to Joanne
Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2007 13:19:15 -0500
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On Sun, 4 Mar 2007 12:53:56 -0500, you wrote:

>> >In the interest of fairness and (my own) total disclosure, I will give
>> you
>> >what I believe is the best evidence for some portugese involvement, at
>> some
>> >point, with *SOME* of the ancestors of the Newmans Ridge colony (but
>> >probably not direct ancestry), and it comes out of Mr. Jack Goins
>> >*already* accumulated
>> >DNA evidence.
>> >
>> >In one sample Mr. Goins collected, the participant was projected as an
>> >``L``. This is found often in India and Pakistan but also in *Sri
>> Lanka*.
>>
>> Note that in his 2002 DNA study Dr. Jones of the University of
>> Virginia at Wise found Siddi mtDNA in several samples.
>>
>> Dennis
>
>
>A siddi attribution, though, would be entirely consistent with what an
>englisman would very commonly interact with as a `Gypsy`. I am not
>challenging the `direct out of India` possibility, but the easiest, most
>likely M / M1 MtDNA route into a British Isles / N. American gene pool,
>circa say 1800, would have been through the gypsy population that was quite
>plentiful and `friendly`, as they travelled, and had been in the
>british isles for many hunrdeds or years- Most of the `Penfold` surname are
>actually `Gypsies` from England.

A possible Gypsy/Roma origin was widely speculated upon at the time,
and it is known that the British dumped a number of Gypsies in
Virginia and Pennsylvania in the 17th and 18th centuries, so it is not
implausible. However, other possible routes, including direct from
India and by way of West Africa, where also proposed.

Dennis

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