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From: "Jack Goins" <>
Subject: Re: [MELUNGEON] Core Melungeons
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 17:16:38 -0400
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Valentine was still in Hawkins County 1810, he had 6 in the family when he
moved from Ashe County.

1800 census Ash County.

1800 Ashe County NC Census



Head Number of free colored in household





Ambrose Collins 4

Thomas Collins 7

Vardy Collins 4

Valentine Collins 6

Andrew Gibson 7

Archibald Gibson 7

Ezekiel Gibson 3

Joel Gibson 2





----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack Goins" <>
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Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [MELUNGEON] Core Melungeons


> No doubt about it Don Valentine Collins is one of the founders Joined
> Stony
> Creek Church Dec 1801- Stony Creek Church 23 April 1803 Valentine Collins&
> wife dismissed. He obviously comes to Hawkins County and purchases his
> farm
> and joins The Blackwater Church..
> "Aug.1807 Valentine Collins' case laid over. Sept: Valentine Collins
> neglected to hear the church, non-fellowship with him and will inform the
> church on Black Water. Isaac Denton, Wm Goodson, Harden Williams to write
> a
> letter to that church." 204204-Clear Fork Baptist Church Minutes
> Cumberland
> County Kentucky
>
> Page 81 Melungeons Footprints from the Past.
>
> Lewis M Jarvis-In former writings I have given their stations and stops on
> their way as they emigrated to this country with white people, one of
> which
> places was at the mouth of Stony Creek on Clinch river in Scott County,
> Virginia, where they built a fort and called it Ft. Blackmore after Col.
> Blackmore who was with them. They settled here in about 1804, possibly
> about
> the year 1795. When Daniel Boone was here hunting 1763-1767, these
> Melungeons were not here."
>
> Jack
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Don Collins" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 2:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [MELUNGEON] Core Melungeons
>
>
>>> Valentine Collins certainly cannot be documented as a founder.
>>
>> I don't think any one says he was, no one even knows who his parents was.
>>
>> Were any of these others listed with Valentine Collins on these records
>> be considered 'founders' ?......
>>
>> Vardemon Navarrh Collins settled in Blackwater Valley, Tennessee
>> in 1797. In 1810 he had already acquired 100 acres of land, as listed
>> for the Captain Looney Company, Puncheon Camp Valley (Pore Valley),
>> along with Benjamin Colings, 90 acres; Hennery Collings, James Collings,
>> 100 acres; John Denhan, Gerden (Jordan) Gibson, 100 acres; Yearby
>> Gibson, Shepard Gibson, 50 acres; Charels Gibson, Tiry Gibson, 50 acres;
>> Royal Gibson and Vallingtine (Valentine) Collins, 100 acres. The William
>> Nichols list of 1812 includes Jesse Gibson 30 acres, and John Denhan, 30
>> acres.
>>
>> State of Tennessee Hawkins County vs Valentine Collins, Benjamin
>> Collins, Jordan Gibson and Charles Gibson on a plea of debt by merchant
>> John N. Preston May 1, 1811. Hawkins County Circuit Court, Rogersville,
>> Tennessee.
>>
>>
>> Don Collins
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/18/2011 4:08 AM, wrote:
>>> Valentine Collins certainly cannot be documented as a founder.
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