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From: Susan H Wilson <>
Subject: Re: Broderbund census CD's and index CDs
Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 10:34:54 -0400


There are many more problems with the Census CDs than males and females
reversed for 1800 and 1810. Here's the complete list of what people near
me have found missing. These are from the older census CDs, but many of
these problems are still in the newer census CDs (300 series). We
haven't checked all of them. We live in VA, and are doing census
research mostly in VA and TN, so that's most of what we've noticed. Some
of the information came from others. Our librarian tells me that Harvard
U. has statistics from all of the censuses (including numbers of
households) by county for all census years. It would be tedious to
check, but I've suggested to Broderbund that they do this. I found the
census information at (http://fisher.lib.virginia.edu/census/).

As far as I know, these errors are not in the book indices from AIS, and
the same data were used, confirmed by Broderbund. Broderbund says that
they used the magnetic tapes that were used to make the census index
books. For the second series of census CDs, FTM implied that most of
the problems were fixed, but as far as I can tell, the only problems that
were fixed were obvious spelling errors, like a space in the name, or
"JAEMS" for "JAMES." Maybe some of the wrong counties are also in the
book indices. As best I can tell, the same census indices are on the
ancestry site (http://www.ancestry.com). So the book indices are the
only backup source I've found as are the indices at the FHL on microfiche
(mostly 1850 and before). AGLL makes some census indices that aren't on
the 300 series of Broderbund Census CDs. Now you can also check the
USGenWeb page for the county of interest, and there might be a census
index for the county or even copies of the census. This site is for
census online (http://www.doitnow.com/~moravia/census.html). It includes
some census sites that aren't on USGenWeb.

Feel free to pass this around. I'll add more problems to the list if
they're reported to me.
Sue Wilson <>

1800 (CD 312) some or all of the entries may have the male and female
columns reversed

1810 TN - Stewart Co., TN entries are really for 1820
1810 VA - at least some, maybe all of the census transcriptions are
backwards (females first). You can verify by looking at a female headed
household. Other locations are suspect, too.

1820 IL, IN, KY, LA, MD, NC, OH, SC, TN, VA - missing beginning of
alphabet
(first surnames listed start w/ F)
1820 PA - lists Ontario Co., PA, which had been renamed Bradford Co. in
1812
1820 VA - some Albamarle Co., VA are listed as Chesterfield Co.

1830 VA - missing Westmoreland Co.

1840 TN - most of the alphabet missing. Stops in the H surnames
(newer CDs have a few names added with surnames after H)
1840 VA - Accomack Co, VA missing the beginning of the alphabet Surnames
start w/ M


1850 NY - Seneca Co., NY is listed as St. Lawrence Co., NY
1850 NY - Ward numbers are missing for NY Co. Wards 2-x (and there are
25 reels!!!)
1850 OH - Morgan Twp, Gallia Co is listed as Fulton Co.
1850 PA - missing Lancaster Co.
1850 TN - data for some counties are really 1860 TN
1850 TN - Hardeman, Obion co. missing
1850 VA - missing Bath, Brooke, Floyd, Gloucester, Richmond, & Tazewell
Co.
1850 VA - Rappahannock Co. is listed both as Rappahannock and Orange Co.
1850 WV - lists Doddridge, Fayette, Logan, & Rockingham, which are VA
counties
( also listed in 1850 VA) (WV didn't exist in 1850)

1860 IL - White Co missing (may be listed under Whiteside Co)
1860 VA - missing Buchanan, Buckingham, Goochland, Mason Co.

1870 VA - missing Fairfax, Fauquier, Madison, Mathews, Rockbridge Co.
1870 VA - missing 2nd reel (#1667) for Norfolk Co.
1870 WV - Kanawha Co. is missing Poca Twp.

Mortality OH - Counties that start w/ A-G missing
Mortality KY - Counties that start w/ A-O missing


On Tue, 4 Jul 2000 09:15:14 -0400 "dutch" <> writes:
> To all list members--Please read message below from Rick Monroe. I
also
> found the following to be true after comparing original NC and PA
census
> schedules with those on GenealogyLibrary.com. I also wrote a letter
to
> Broderbund and an email to GenealogyLibrary.com, but received no
response.
> So be careful with their census data--they've reversed the numbers and
put
> females first + others, males second.
> Marty Holland
>
>
>
> Hey Gang,
>
> We all need to inform our fellow researchers of Broderbund's census
> information.
>
> 1) At GenealogyLibrary.com, the 1810 census information they present
> transposes the male and female columns. By that I mean, the first five
> numbers they show are for females, the second five numbers are for
male.
> This is contrary to the actual census reports that list the males in
the
> first five columns and the females in the second five columns.
>
> 2) I just learned today that Broderbund's CD312, Census Index for
Selected
> US Counties, 1800, also has the male and female columns transposed.
>
> As a result of these findings, I would consider any Broderbund products
that
> list census reports from 1800 to 1840 to be suspect at best.
>
> Please pass this information on to your fellow researchers. I sent an
e-mail
> to Broderbund when I found the errors in the 1810 index, I received no
> response. This does not make their information useless, you simply
have to
> reverse the columns.
>
> Rick Monroe
>

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