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From: sue <>
Subject: Re: [NCMONT] James BATTEN's
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 17:08:09 -0400
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In-Reply-To: <007a01c4a347$a65f85a0$6500a8c0@Cathy>


Hi Cathy,

The Marriage Bonds of NC do no list any other James in Montgomery Co.,
but the one that married Rebecca. There is nothing else on the bond
except the date the bond was taken, which is 12 Dec. 1848 and the
bondsman, Isham Blake, with the witness N. Knight.
In case your do want to write for it, the Bond # is: 000084535, but you
shouldn't even need that, just the basic info.

There is one other James Batten, who took out a bond to marry Sally
Garner in Johnston Co. on 22 Jan. 1824.
90% of the Batten marriage bonds are in Johnston and Montgomery Co.

The county courthouse should have the actual marriage license register.
I'm sure you know that, bonds do not typically have information on the
parents, unless there is an additional statement saying they give
permission, in case of minority of either of the participants.
But, the actual license with the minister or J.P. return may have the
parents signing it or attaching a letter of permission.

So, your best bet would be to write the courthouse in Montgomery or go
there.

The archives aren't going to have the marriage licenses anyway, unless
someone has published them and placed the book, in the library or archives.
Because, as you know, the records for marriages don't start that early
(as a state regulation) in NC.

Hope this helps.
Sue




Cathy Cranford wrote:

> I have checked marriages that I have in my possession, as well as 1850 and
> 1860 and 1870 census. I do not have a copy of the James & Rebecca Batten
> marriage. Does it list his parents?
>
> The marriages that I have on my site do not list these three James' parents.
> Only some of their children.
>
> I have James (Jr.) and Rebecca's family and have Rebecca's father, but not
> James' father. Who was his father? Need only the father.
>
> I have James (Esq.) and Mary Pittman's family, but not this James' father.
> Who was his father? Need only the father.
>
> Who was James Sr. Batten and Mary's children? These folks are dead by 1860,
> it appears, and most surely by 1870 so census would not be of help, here,
> and is why I checked 1850.
>
> Ages stayed pretty much the same thru the census, for the younger two
> James', 1850, 1860, 1870...
>
> Thank you, Lea for the marriage date, I did not have that. Visiting the
> archives is not an option for me at the present time.
>
> Cathy Cranford
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lea Morris" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2004 2:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [NCMONT] James BATTEN's
>
>
>
>>I only have the information, you will have to get the marriage record from
>>Raleigh Archives.
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: <>
>>To: <>
>>Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2004 1:42 PM
>>Subject: Re: [NCMONT] James BATTEN's
>>
>>
>>
>>>Hi, Lea,
>>>
>>>Do you have the marriage record or just the marriage info? Who are the
>>>parents for Rebecca Morris? and for young James?
>>>
>>>Cynthia
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Lea Morris" <>
>>>To: <>
>>>Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 8:03 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [NCMONT] James BATTEN's
>>>
>>>
>>>| Have you check the 1860, 1870 census to follow through, the year of
>>
>>birth
>>
>>>of
>>>| the middle James could be wrong, that happens a lot. Also have you
>>
>>looked
>>
>>>| for marriage records that would list the parents of these James's.
>
> That
>
>>>| might help.
>>>| According to the Montgomery marriage record for young James, he
>
> married
>
>>>| Rebecca Morris on 12/12 1848.
>>>| don't know if this will help or not.
>>>| lea
>>>| ----- Original Message -----
>>>| From: "Cathy Cranford" <>
>>>| To: <>
>>>| Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 3:30 AM
>>>| Subject: [NCMONT] James BATTEN's
>>>|
>>>|
>>>| > Hi folks,
>>>| > Need help with this one, please. I have three James BATTEN men who
>>
>>are
>>
>>>| > right next door to each other in the 1850 Montgomery County, NC
>>
>>Census.
>>
>>>| I
>>>| > have one that I have followed and know were he fits in, but I do not
>>>know
>>>| > his father. So today I was looking for his father, and saw the
>
> James
>
>>>Sr.
>>>| > The man that I know is James, the esq. Well, thought I had the
>
> esq.'s
>
>>>| > father until I looked further on and found just under the Sr.'s
>>
>>family,
>>
>>>| was
>>>| > a jr, also. So three James BATTEN, and their families, all living
>>
>>right
>>
>>>| > next door to one another. Can anyone help?
>>>| > Here is the man that I know and have fitted into my tree, but need
>
> his
>
>>>| > father:
>>>| > Cathy Cranford found the following in the 1850 Montgomery County, NC
>>>| Census:
>>>| >
>>>| > 422/424
>>>| >
>>>| > Batten, James Esq. Age 39 male farmer $600 born NC
>>>| >
>>>| > Batten, Mary age 40 female born NC
>>>| >
>>>| > Batten, Edward age 15 male laborer born NC
>>>| >
>>>| > Batten, David age 12 male born NC
>>>| >
>>>| > Batten, E. C. age 9 female born NC
>>>| >
>>>| > Batten, Mary age 7 female born NC
>>>| >
>>>| > Batten, Barbara A. age 4 female born NC
>>>| >
>>>| > Ok, now here is the man that sits right next door to the one up
>
> above:
>
>>>| >
>>>| > 423/425
>>>| >
>>>| > Batten, James Sr. age 80 male born NC
>>>| >
>>>| > Batten, Mary age 70 female born NC
>>>| >
>>>| > And here is the man who lives right next door to the older one:
>>>| >
>>>| > 424/426
>>>| >
>>>| > Batten, James Jr. age 25 male farmer $48 born NC
>>>| >
>>>| > Batten, Rebecca age 17 female born NC
>>>| >
>>>| > Batten, Sarah A. age 7/12 female born NC
>>>| >
>>>| > In other words,, the Sr. sits in the middle of the two younger James
>>>| BATTEN
>>>| > heads of households. Which of the younger James BATTEN, is the son
>
> of
>
>>>the
>>>| > 80 year old? And how does the other one tie into these folks? Has
>
> to
>
>>>be
>>>| a
>>>| > close connection for all three to live next to each other this way.
>>>| >
>>>| > The first one that I posted is the husband of Mary PITTMAN.
>>>| >
>>>| > I thought maybe at first that this was three generations, Father,
>
> son,
>
>>>and
>>>| > grandson, but if so, then that leaves only 14 years between the son
>>
>>and
>>
>>>| > grandson.
>>>| >
>>>| > Thanks for any help given. I know it is late, 3:27 in the morning
>
> and
>
>>>| > realize it is time to hit the sack, when you post a message
>
> concerning
>
>>>| > BATTEN folks, and type them out as BLAKE. If not for proofing this
>>>| message,
>>>| > I would have had all my text wrong, and only the census
>>
>>transcriptions,
>>
>>>| > correct. Surely would have confused all of you in a big way, huh?
>>>| heh-heh
>>>| > and so with that, I am off to bed. I have been messing with census
>>>| records
>>>| > far too long, today, when I start seeing other names instead of the
>>
>>ones
>>
>>>I
>>>| > really am seeing.
>>>| >
>>>| > Take care,
>>>| >
>>>| > Cathy Cranford
>>>| >
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