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From: Les Beecher <>
Subject: Re: Pirate Ships 1825?
Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 16:41:51 +1200


Hi Maureen
I live in Neslon, near Motueka. If you dont get a better offer I could
do some lookups for you in the cemetery records for William James THOMAS,
I assume he is the person who married a Maori? I can also mention this
to the Motueka folk who come into Nelson on a regular basis...

To add to Pearl's and others replies...

========== BULLY HAYES 1832 - 1877 ==========

Hayes was born at Clevland, Ohio one of three sons of Henry Hayes, a
lumberjacker and grog-shanty keeper. He was a close relative of
Rutherford Hayes, who became presedent of the United States. After
little or no education Hayes served in the United States navy in China,
but was dismised in 1846. Thereafter his movements are doubtful. He
traded as far afield as Singapore, Sydney, San Francisco, and Calcutta.
He married 3 times. After facing bankruptcy in Adelaide (1858) and
Sydney (1860), he sailed the Cincinatti to Otago (Sep 1862) and there
joined the buckinham Entertainers, following them to Arrowtown where he
married Rosie Buckingham. He opened a Hotel "Prince of Wales" (1863)
where the immitable Thatcher played (q.v). His reputation however
followed him and he and Rosie left Arrowtown for Nelson where she was
drowned (17 August 1864). There his ship "Black Diamond" was seized by
Sydney Baliffs. On 26 July 1865, at the Royal Hotel, Christchurch, Hayes
married Emily Butler, by whom he had a son a two daughters.

<snip>

Hayes was murdered in the Marshall Islands in March 1877, during a
mutiny of his own making.

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Knickname Bully was derived from the Samoan "Bulli" - Elusive or
Evasive. There seems little 'real proof' that Hayes was the notorious
pirate history makes him out to be...

The dates you mention seem to suggest that W. J. Thomas may have
been involved with Hayes prior to his visit to N.Z, although Hayes may
have been here earlier than 1862?

Cheers for Now
Les

>
>My sister-in-law informs me that my husband's gg grandfather came to New
>Zealand from Wales on a pirate ship, headed by a "Bully Hayes".
>
>Where can I find out about this pirate, what ship it might have been, and
>when and where it arrived? We think this happened when he was a child.
>William James THOMAS was brought up in Motueka, and his oldest child was
>born around 1845-1850.
>
>His first wife was Maori (family legend says a Maori Chief's daughter), the
>second wife was not. They allowed him to be buried with his first wife in
>the Pah Street Cemetery. Am I correct in assuming this would be an honor?
>
>Thanks for your help. The libraries in the States don't have a lot of
>basic NZ Genealogy information available.
>

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