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Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 18:14:27 +1200
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>
> Today's Topics:
>
> 1. Brian Battie (Catherine Anderson)
> 2. Charles Edward DeLacy McCarthy b. Dublin ca. 1847
> ()
> 3. NZ BDM records (Anne Brady)
> 4. Burial Look Up - Mary Jane Mitchell (A & K Hitchcock)
> 5. Waikumete Cemetery (Bruce Glass)
> 6. Re: NZ BDM records (Ian Westergaard)
> 7. Medical Practitioners-CHARLES EDWARD DELACY MCCARTHY
> (Jenelle McCarrick)
> 8. Re: NZ BDM records (teeta1)
> 9. death notice Hamilton? ()
> 10. birth ()
> 11. Re: Waikumete Cemetery (R Turner)
> 12. Un-named birth (Bruce Glass)
> 13. Author Elizabeth Sheppard (Allan Steel)
> 14. Re: Author Elizabeth Sheppard (Ian Westergaard)
> 15. Re: birth (Heather McLean)
> 16. DEERNESS & PEYMAN (curiouskiwi)
> 17. MORRISON (Verna Bode)
> 18. Re: Un-named birth (Wendy Howard)
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 07:22:38 +1200
> From: Catherine Anderson <>
> Subject: [nz] Brian Battie
> To: New Zealand <>
> Message-ID: <>
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>
> Does anyone know the above who is a descendant of the Allen family who
> came out on the Cressy.
>
> I would love to make contact
> Kind Regards
> Catherine Anderson
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:03:17 -0400
> From:
> Subject: [nz] Charles Edward DeLacy McCarthy b. Dublin ca. 1847
> To:
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>
> Dear List Readers,
>
> For a very long time I thought C.E.D. McCarthy, surgeon, died in Hong
> Kong about 1877. Thanks to a researcher in Auckland with an extensive
> list of 3200+ doctors who practised in NZ, I learned that "C.E.D."
> didn't die in HK but went to Australia and finally to NZ registering on
> 30 Aug 1880. He wasn't deleted from the NZ Physicians' Register until
> 1915 - however, he may have died before that date.
>
> Now I have learned that in 1891 he married Esther Adelaide Ellis,
> daughter of Capt. Joseph Ellis (d. 1897) and Eliza Ann Wells and that
> he practised medicine in Palmerston North and Wellington.
>
> I have used the New Zealand on-line B-D-M site, but have been unable to
> find a record of his death or that of Esther. If anyone can provide
> this information to me I would be so grateful.
>
> I would also like to find C.E.D.'s obituary and learn where he is
> buried. And I would like to know if he and Esther had children; if so
> their names and dates, etc. Any ideas on where I should begin my
> search?
>
> Judy Martin <>
> Santa Maria, CA - USA
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 09:22:13 +1200
> From: "Anne Brady" <>
> Subject: [nz] NZ BDM records
> To: <>
> Message-ID: <003f01ca0bdb$a5857250$f09056f0$@>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> Hi Jess/Ian
>
> Thanks for pointing that out, obviously I had not checked any of my early
> families yet. Has anyone got any idea when they plan to fix this, as being
> able to get the exact date has been so useful.
>
> Anne
>
> ****************
> Hi Ann
>
> Re...
>
> "...Works for all the bdm's they have uploaded..."
>
> I would have to disagree... For early records... the DIA historical
> record
> site appears to default to "any date you choose" and if you have taken any
> early date as a valid record I would suggest you check it... Try it...
>
>
> Jess
> ***********************
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 10:13:42 +1200
> From: "A & K Hitchcock" <>
> Subject: [nz] Burial Look Up - Mary Jane Mitchell
> To: <>
> Message-ID: <>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
>
> Hello kind souls
>
> Can someone please check burial details for Mary Jane (known as Jane)
> Mitchell, died 1902, wife of John Mitchell, widow of William Harrison.
> Lived in Kumeu area.
>
> Thanks.
> Karen
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 11:06:09 +1200
> From: Bruce Glass <>
> Subject: [nz] Waikumete Cemetery
> To:
> Message-ID: <>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Hi Listers,
>
> Is there a list of headstone inscriptions for Waikumete Cemetery in
> Auckland?
>
> I am wanting to know if there is a headstone for James Ernest Glennon
> and if so what are the details on it. James Ernest Glennon was buried
> 9th July, 1930. His grave details are .....
>
> PRESBYTERIAN DIVISION E Row 10, Plot 64
>
> Best regards, Bruce Glass
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 11:12:46 +1200
> From: Ian Westergaard <>
> Subject: Re: [nz] NZ BDM records
> To: New Zealand list <>
> Message-ID: <>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 09:22:13 +1200, "Anne Brady" <>
> wrote:
>> Hi Jess/Ian
>>
>> Thanks for pointing that out, obviously I had not checked any of my early
>> families yet. Has anyone got any idea when they plan to fix this, as
> being
>> able to get the exact date has been so useful.
>>
>> Anne
>
> I would think it is very low on their list of priorities. In fact I
> suspect
> being able to determine the actual date of the later records is an
> unintended result of the way they have constructed the database to prevent
> disclosure of information that is outside the 100 and 80 year parameters.
>
> Ian Westergaard
> New Zealand
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 09:33:41 +1000
> From: "Jenelle McCarrick" <>
> Subject: [nz] Medical Practitioners-CHARLES EDWARD DELACY MCCARTHY
> To: <>
> Message-ID: <>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252";
> reply-type=original
>
> Judy have you seen this on your man...
> Jenelle.
> http://www.tasmaniangenealogy.com.au/Information/medical_practitioners.html
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 12:28:29 +1200
> From: teeta1 <>
> Subject: Re: [nz] NZ BDM records
> To: Anne Brady <>,
> Message-ID: <>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Hi Anne
> Re:...
> "...being able to get the exact date has been so useful..."
>
> The big question is... Were you getting the exact date???
>
> Apparently this has applied to early records 1840 - late 1860's... From
> day one!!...
> I suggest you check all of your early bdm records gleaned from this
> site...
>
> As Ian pointed out... Its probably not a biggie for DIA...
> They haven't rectified it as yet ... There has been previous discussion,
> re this, on NZ Rootsweb.... Rather than air it again and suffer the
> possible "Off Topic" suggestion from the List administrator... Send an
> email (Possibly wont get a reply, I haven't for other queries since day
> one!) or phone DIA.
>
> Jess
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Anne Brady
> To:
> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 9:22 AM
> Subject: [nz] NZ BDM records
>
>
> Hi Jess/Ian
> Thanks for pointing that out, obviously I had not checked any of my early
> families yet. Has anyone got any idea when they plan to fix this, as
> being
> able to get the exact date has been so useful.
> Anne
> ****************
> Hi Ann
> Re...
> "...Works for all the bdm's they have uploaded..."
> I would have to disagree... For early records... the DIA historical
> record
> site appears to default to "any date you choose" and if you have taken
> any
> early date as a valid record I would suggest you check it... Try it...
> Jess
>
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 12:29:54 +1200
> From:
> Subject: [nz] death notice Hamilton?
> To:
> Message-ID: <>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Hi Listers
>
> Rec a copy of a death registration today for Kenneth William WEST died
> 20 February 1926 at Waikato hospital. Lived Whatawhata road Frankton
> Junction he is buried in Hamilton East cemetery. Can someone please
> check for a death notice. Cert says he had 2 daughters we need to
> find them if possible, our family reunion is getting closer and this
> is just about the last of family to find.
> thanks
> Patsy
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 12:38:00 +1200
> From:
> Subject: [nz] birth
> To:
> Message-ID: <>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Hi again listers
>
> also discovered that their son was only 8 DAYS old when his father
> died so born 12 Feb 1926 (or thereabouts) surname WEST is it possible
> to find him anyway at all without his name? possibly Kenneth same as
> his father and grandfather maybe??
> Also the two daughters were born between 1922 and 1925 if son was born
> in Feb then daughters had to be born prior to June 1925 is there
> anyway I could find them.
> Born in Frankton Junction I wouldnt mind betting as that was where
> they were living.
>
> thanks again
> Patsy
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 12:47:33 +1200
> From: R Turner <>
> Subject: Re: [nz] Waikumete Cemetery
> To: Bruce Glass <>
> Cc:
> Message-ID: <>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> Hi Bruce,
> The Waikumete headstones have been transcribed by the Auckland Branch of
> NZSG. The books are in the NZSG library and Auckland City Library.
>
> No headstone was found at the grave of James Ernest GLENNON.
> You have the details from the burial record.
>
> Regards,
> Ray Turner
>
> On Fri, 2009-07-24 at 11:06 +1200, Bruce Glass wrote:
>>
>> Is there a list of headstone inscriptions for Waikumete Cemetery in
>> Auckland?
>>
>> I am wanting to know if there is a headstone for James Ernest Glennon
>> and if so what are the details on it. James Ernest Glennon was buried
>> 9th July, 1930. His grave details are .....
>>
>> PRESBYTERIAN DIVISION E Row 10, Plot 64
>>
>> Best regards, Bruce Glass
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 14:15:05 +1200
> From: Bruce Glass <>
> Subject: [nz] Un-named birth
> To:
> Message-ID: <>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Hi listers,
>
> I have been given the following details .....
>
> *1928 Un-named male birth, record # 2846/31 Wlg.*
>
> Does anyone have ready access to the BDm micro-fiche or other records that
> may give me some names for this entry. Hopefully, at least a mother's
> name.
>
> My appreciation for any help
>
> Cheers, Bruce Glass
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 14:04:17 +1200
> From: "Allan Steel" <>
> Subject: [nz] Author Elizabeth Sheppard
> To: <>
> Message-ID: <>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Hi Folks,
> Looking for anybody who might know where I can contact Elizabeth Sheppard
> who has written a number of books including "Like Smoke in a Wheelbarrow'.
> She refers to my Cable house in her book and I am trying to make contact
> with her in the hope she can give me more information about the house and
> family.
> I think she now lives in Auckland.
> Thank you.
> regards
> Allan
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 14:59:50 +1200
> From: Ian Westergaard <>
> Subject: Re: [nz] Author Elizabeth Sheppard
> To: New Zealand list <>
> Message-ID: <>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> Hi Allan
>
> Have you tried contacting her through her publisher?
>
> Ian Westergaard
> New Zealand
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 14:04:17 +1200, "Allan Steel" <>
> wrote:
>> Hi Folks,
>> Looking for anybody who might know where I can contact Elizabeth Sheppard
>> who has written a number of books including "Like Smoke in a
> Wheelbarrow'.
>> She refers to my Cable house in her book and I am trying to make contact
>> with her in the hope she can give me more information about the house and
>> family.
>> I think she now lives in Auckland.
>> Thank you.
>> regards
>> Allan
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 15:16:31 +1200
> From: "Heather McLean" <>
> Subject: Re: [nz] birth
> To: <>, <>
> Message-ID: <>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> Hi Patsy
> This might be of some help!
> NZ Births Fiche 1926 Stanley Kenneth WEST folio no. 296 (Hamilton)
> 1st quarter
> Heather
>
>
> Subject: [nz] birth
>
>
>> Hi again listers
>>
>> also discovered that their son was only 8 DAYS old when his father
>> died so born 12 Feb 1926 (or thereabouts) surname WEST is it possible
>> to find him anyway at all without his name? possibly Kenneth same as
>> his father and grandfather maybe??
>> Also the two daughters were born between 1922 and 1925 if son was born
>> in Feb then daughters had to be born prior to June 1925 is there
>> anyway I could find them.
>> Born in Frankton Junction I wouldnt mind betting as that was where
>> they were living.
>>
>> thanks again
>> Patsy
>>
>>
>>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 16:51:28 +1200
> From: curiouskiwi <>
> Subject: [nz] DEERNESS & PEYMAN
> To:
> Message-ID:
> <>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Hello all, Is there anybody interested in the above families from the
> Wanganui area?
>
> Eleanor PEYMAN married William DEERNESS in 1913.
>
> Eleanor is a daughter of Annie Emily HILL who married John Benjamin
> PEYMAN.
>
> I am trying to find out more about Annie Hill, for a friend. Many thanks
>
> Marion
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 17
> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 14:45:02 +1000
> From: "Verna Bode" <>
> Subject: [nz] MORRISON
> To: <>
> Message-ID:
> <>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Hello List
>
> I have just joined your list hoping for some kind person, with access to
> the
> electoral rolls for Palmerston to do a look up for me. I am looking for
> the
> children of William John MORRISON and Kathleen Mary MORRISON. John died
> in
> Awapuni 1966 and Kathleen died in Palmerston in 1961. Does anyone have
> ANY
> information at all on this family. I am hoping to find some reference to
> children with them on the Electoral rolls. I think John was a company
> director of some sort.
>
> Hoping and thanking you in advance
>
> Verna
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 18
> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 17:04:41 +1200
> From: Wendy Howard <>
> Subject: Re: [nz] Un-named birth
> To:
> Message-ID: <>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Hi Bruce,
>
> > I have been given the following details .....
>
> Who gave you the details and where did they get it from? No need to
> tell us a name here on the list (and there's no point writing to me
> privately and telling me, either) but some general information might be
> helpful.
>
> > *1928 Un-named male birth, record # 2846/31 Wlg.*
>
> Was there a surname? You don't mention it if there was.
>
> > Does anyone have ready access to the BDm micro-fiche or
> > other records that may give me some names for this entry.
> > Hopefully, at least a mother's name.
>
> The microfiche indexes will not tell you the mother's name back then.
> At most it will tell you (a) the name of the baby, (b) the folio number
> assigned to the registration, and (c) the office the registration was
> made at.
>
> If that reference you gave us is from BDM Historical Records
> (http://bdmhistoricalrecords.identityservices.govt.nz/home/) then you
> need to place an order for a copy (get the printout, not the
> certificate) to find out what it says. If it is not what BDM class as
> "historic" you will have to follow their rules to order a copy - it's
> not impossible, but you can't do it online.
>
> Oh, and you may like to take part in their survey while you're visiting
> that web site. There's a link to it on their home page.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Wendy Howard
>
> *** Please reply to the list ***
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