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From: Trevor <>
Subject: Re: [TRINITYBAY] 1784...HART of ENGLISH Harbour and HART's or HEART'sCONTENT......Thomas COLE and Capt. DILLON
Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 20:27:30 -0700
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Growing up there, it was always rumoured that it was called "Heart's"
Content because the harbour is shaped like a heart from above.
I remember what we as children used to call Indian grave stones.
Probably wishful thinking, given that there are absolutely no signs of the
natives that once lived there.
Are you from there, Al ?
Which house is yours ?
My grandmother is a Cumby, possible have settled there around 1682.
My mother is from Hant's Harbour.
TR
----- Original Message -----
From: "Al Dillon" <>
To: <>
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 7:39 PM
Subject: RE: [TRINITYBAY] 1784...HART of ENGLISH Harbour and HART's or
HEART's CONTENT......Thomas COLE and Capt. DILLON
> On that same page Melvin Rowe wrote: "Why then did Guy visit the place and
> for what purpose? We know that there were no white people living there at
> that time and the only reason he had for making the sea voyage was to
> trade
> and barter with the Beothucks."....... "63 years were to pass .. .. in the
> fall of 1675 ..... a census was taken on October 4, on orders of Sir James
> Berry, disclosed that there were 19 men, women and stationed at Heart's
> Content." Family names were Quermit, Gabrielle and Dick. There is
> nothing
> to support Lloyd's theory that it was once named Hart's Content nor are
> the
> adjoining towns of Heart's Desire and Heart's Delight named for any Hart.
> Tthose of us who know the town well, feel it is aptly named Heart's
> Content. I would rather be sitting on the porch of my Heart's Content
> house
> next to the harbor than any where else in the world. Also Lloyd has the
> idea
> that Hant's Harbour was once Harts Harbour. Hants is and old short form
> of
> Hampshire in southern England.
> There are in Rowe's book references to other families in surrounding towns
> present in 1675.
> Regards
> Al Dillon
> Carlsbad, CA
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Trevor [mailto:]
> Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 5:54 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [TRINITYBAY] 1784...HART of ENGLISH Harbour and HART's or
> HEART's CONTENT......Thomas COLE and Capt. DILLON
>
>
> The First official record and reference that can be uncovered concerning
> Heart's Content was made by John Guy when he visited the place in the Fall
> of 1612, two years after he founded his colony at Cupids.
> ("I have Touched The Greatest Ship" Melvin Rowe)
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lloyd Rowsell" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 6:04 PM
> Subject: [TRINITYBAY] 1784...HART of ENGLISH Harbour and HART's or HEART's
> CONTENT......Thomas COLE and Capt. DILLON
>
>
>> HART of English Harbour and HART's or HEART's CONTENT......Thomas
>> COLE and Capt. DILLON
>>
>> Question: I wonder what is the earliest record of the Trinity Bay
>> place now named HEART's CONTENT.
>>
>> Early Medicine in Cajun Land or Noo fin lan....
>> http://www.cmaj.ca/cgi/content/full/161/12/1543
>>
>> ***********************************************
>>
>> Wed, 1 Feb 2006 19:22:10 -0500
>> From: "Thomas R Cole" <>
>> To:
>> Subject: Dr John CLINCH
>>
>>
>>
>> CLINCH, JOHN, doctor, Church of England clergyman, office holder,
>> and judge;b. 9 Jan. 1748/49 in Cirencester, England, one of twin
>> children of
>> Thomas CLINCH of Bere Regis, England; m. 17 June 1784 Hannah HART
>> of English Harbour, Nfld, and they had seven sons and one
>> daughter; d. 22
>> Nov. 1819 in Trinity, Nfld.
>>
>> http://www.biographi.ca
>>
>> xxxx
>> [TC Note]
>> His biographer makes a rather incomplete reference to John
>> Clinch's "visit"
>> to the Congregational chapel in Poole and in the wrong
>> chronological order.
>> After more than 12 years in Newfoundland, Clinch returned to
>> England in 1787
>> for his ordination at St. Paul's Cathedral by the Bishop of
>> London. While in
>> England he stayed in Hamworthy and with the absence of a church
>> there,
>> Clinch (Clench in the Poole records) saw the need for Sunday
>> School
>> instructions including reading and writing. After gathering a
>> little flock
>> he took them across to the Established Church of Poole St. James,
>> just a
>> half mile away by boat. Since Hamworthy was then under the
>> jurisdicton of
>> Sturminster Marshall, Poole St. James refused them admittance.
>> This being
>> their excuse but the true cause was an age old animosity between
>> Poole and
>> Ham. Undaunted Dr Clinch marched the children over to Skinner
>> Street
>> Independent where he was even more widely known for this chapel
>> was filled
>> to the gunwales with Newfoundland traders, master mariners,
>> sailors,
>> shipwrights, coopers and ropemakers so that John Clinch was no
>> stranger
>> there. Clinch's sunday school still exists under the name Junior
>> School and
>> its bicentennial celebrations included a reenactment complete with
>>
>> period
>> costumes and a "crossing over the water".
>>
>> See also: A History of Hamworthy facts, fables and folk. by Ann C.
>>
>> Smeaton.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ********************************************************"Tales written on
>> the walls of a 'House in Exile'.....Rev.R.T.S.LOWELL"American and
>> Newfoundland Literature.WIP Jan. 25/06 by 'ijlghr06'...INDEX of NL
>> Characters/ Persons and Places mentioned by the author.1843-1847.."New
>> Priest in Conception Bay" electronic historical
>>
> novelhttp://www.letrs.indiana.edu/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=wright2;idno=wright2
> -1591v
>>
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