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From: (by way of Sue O'Neill <>)
Subject: Re: Working on this branch of our tree
Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 14:59:22 -0400


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Surnames: Squires, King
Classification: Query

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Keywords: Squires, King, Broad Cove, Chelsea

This continues emails sent to
http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/message/an/localities.northam.canada.newfoundland.stjohnseast/885.1.1.1
and
http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/message/an/localities.northam.canada.newfoundland.stjohnseast/885.1.1.1.1
that were gatewayed to NFLD-ROOTS-L on
(a) 4 May 2005 12:36 PM
and
(b) 4 May 2005 6:06 PM.

In (a) I wrote that Emily King "was living at 153 Chester Avenue, Chelsea,
MA, when her brother and sister-in-law, Chester & Ethel King arrived in
Vanceboro, ME, on 13 Aug 1920." It should read this way: Emily King "was
living at 153 Chester Avenue, Chelsea, MA, when her brother Samuel King
arrived in Vanceboro, ME, on 13 Aug 1920."

In (b) I wrote this: Myrtle King ... "was a niece-in-law to James Squires,
so a niece to Emily. Hence, Emily must have been Billy Josiah's sister."
The first part of that is factual; that's what the census says. The second
part is speculative, and not a good speculation at that. The simplest fix
is to delete the second sentence "Hence, Emily ... Josiah's sister"
altogether.

I have come across some additional information about these people.

In (b) I wrote that "there was an Emily King b. 13 Aug 1894 ... to ... Mark
& Mary (Trickett) King ... . So SHE could have been James Squires' wife;
but it's too early for me to claim that as a 'fact' yet." It is now clear
that she was indeed James Squires' wife. Here's the argument.

First, the online Blackhead Methodist Parish Births at
http://www.rootsweb.com/~cannf/cbnorth_norbhuc3601.htm
confirm that "Mark & Mary" King of Broad Cove had a dau Emily on 13 Aug
1894 (see birth #3780)--call her "Emily1"--and a son Samuel b. 29 Apr 1884
(see birth #3188); call him "Samuel1".

A Samuel King, 50 (implying birth year of 1884-85), appears in the 1935
Broad Cove census. There can be little doubt that this Samuel King is
Samuel1; his age is consistent with Samuel1 but, more importantly, his
parents Mark and Mary are living with him. The new information here is that
his wife was identified as "Ethel".

I have a photocopy of a Vanceboro manifest card for a Samuel King; call him
"Samuel2" for the moment. (These cards summarize the information on the
actual manifest.) He arrived in Vanceboro, ME, by train from Halifax on 13
Aug 1920. His place of birth is given as "Broad Cove Nfld". His age at that
time was given as 37, which corresponds to an 1883 birth year. (The
one-year discrepancy from Samuel1 probably is not important.) His nearest
relative at home was "Wife Ethel"--which supports belief that Samuel2 =
Samuel1.

His destination was "Chelsea Mass. Sis Mrs Emily Squires 153 Chester Ave".
This, too, supports belief that Samuel2 = Samuel1, because Samuel1 also had
a sister Emily.

A check with the 1920 Chelsea, MA, census shows 3 families living at 153
Chester Avenue, Chelsea, one of whom was James Squires, 27 (implying a
birth year of 1892), immigrated in 1913, carpenter; his wife Emily, 25
(implying a birth year of 1894)--call her "Emily2"; a one-month old child
Florence; and Bertha Squires, 19 (implying a birth year of 1900),
identified as a "Sister" of James. Emily2's age is consistent with Emily1's
birth date, mentioned above. This supports belief that Emily2 = Emily1,
which mak
es it more likely that Emily2's brother Samuel2 probably is the same person
as Samuel1.

The only thing that made me hesitate to claim that Samuel2 = Samuel1 was
the fact that I could find no mention in the online Broad Cove Methodist
records of a marriage involving Samuel1. But it's not difficult to guess
WHEN the marriage probably occurred.

There's a gravestone in the "new" Broad Cove cemetery that reads as follows:
"In loving memory of
John S. King
beloved son of
Samuel & Ethel King
died while attending
Summer School
St. John's
July 30, 1932
Aged 20 Years
& 5 Months"
Thus, John S. King was b. about Feb 1912. A check with the 1935 census
shows children younger than John living with Samual & Ethel King; so John
probably was their first child, in which case their marriage probably
occurred about 1910-11. But where?

Back to Samuel's Vanceboro card: it shows that Samuel2 acknowledged that he
had been in the U.S. from 1903 to 1914, which may explain why there's no
marriage record for Samuel in Broad Cove; Samuel and Ethel probably were
married in or near Chelsea, MA, and their son John probably was born there,
as well. (There is no simple way for me to confirm these conjectures now.)

That's enough for me: with high probability, Samual2, the Samuel who
visited his sister Emily in Chelsea in 1920, is Samuel1, the son of Mark &
Mary King. And Emily2 = Emily1; that is, with high probability, the Emily
King b. to Mark & Mary King is the Emily who m. James Squires, and was
living with him in Chelsea in 1920.

Bruce King



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