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From: Dick Marston <>
Subject: Re: GDMNH translation
Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 21:38:40 -0700
"Jack W. Ralph" wrote:
> Fellow Researchers,
> I found the following entry on page 441 of the GDMNH under the surname
> heading of LOCKE:
> "3 '1/2 NATHANIEL,' of whom no contemp. ev. is found, was traditionally
> the fa. of John(2), Judith Berry(13) and Sabina Berry(14). Nathaniel(4)
> would also be a poss. s. The theory is put forward that he came to
> Hampt. 1660 (preceded by his s. John) accomp. by a young w. Sabina
> (Hemins) and her ch., that he soon d., and that his wid. was that Sabina
> who m. Wm. Marston(10) and John Redman(1). In 1672 the will of Marston,
> naming his w. Sabina and making their dau. Tryphena (b. 1663) his chief
> heir, was wit. by John Locke(2) (who also had a dau. Tryphena), Locke's
> mo.-in-law and her 2d husb. Tryphena Marston m. Joseph Philbrook, and
> after the death of her mo. (then Sabina Redman), Hampt. was disturbed by
> Philbrook's demands for "rights sometime his w.'s mo.s. A few yrs. aft.
> the death of that Sabina Locke who m. 1st Berry(14), 2d Lewis(1) and 3d
> Philbrook(4), a Berry gr.s. wrote in his Bible 'Sabina Philbrick b. on
> the ocean acc. to report d. 1761 ag. 95.' This indicates 1666 as the
> yr. of her birth, but as her supposed mo. Sabina (Hemins) Locke had m.
> Capt. Marston bef. 1663, either the yr. or age is doubtful. In 1810
> Jonathan and David Locke depos.: Wm. Berry's w. Judith was the dau. of
> Nathaniel Locke and his w. who came from Eng., and Locke's w. bef.
> marriage was Hemins and she brot with her a coat-of-arms which referreth
> to John Hemins (N. H. Gen. Rec. i. 139). Poss. study of the lands of
> John Redman, Wm. Fifield, Richard Sloper etc. (especially of puzzling
> entries in Hampt. rec. 2: 125, 128) might confirm this trad.
> 4 NATHANIEL, Great Isl. 1671, worked on highways there Mar. - Sept.
> 1672; soon d. s. p. (See 3 1/2)."
> My questions:
> Can anyone translate the above into contempory American English so that
> I can understand it?
Being an extremely bright (and modest) 6 year old in 1939 when this book
was published, I think I qualify as a contemporary of that ancient era.
I'll take a stab at it as follows:
"3 '1/2 NATHANIEL,' of whom no contemporary evidence is found, was traditionally
> the father of John(2), Judith Berry(13) and Sabina Berry(14). Nathaniel(4)
> would also be a possible son. The theory is put forward that he came to
> Hampton 1660 (preceded by his son John) accompanied by a young wife Sabina
> (Hemins) and her children, that he soon died, and that his widow was that Sabina
> who married William Marston(10) and John Redman(1). In 1672 the will of Marston,
> naming his wife Sabina and making their daughter Tryphena (born 1663) his chief
> heir, was witnessed by John Locke(2) (who also had a dau. Tryphena), Locke's
> mother-in-law and her 2d husband. Tryphena Marston married Joseph Philbrook, and
> after the death of her mother (then Sabina Redman), Hampton was disturbed by
> Philbrook's demands for "rights sometime his wife's mother's. A few years after
> the death of that Sabina Locke - who married 1st Berry(14), 2d Lewis(1) and 3d
> Philbrook(4) -, a Berry grandson wrote in his Bible, 'Sabina Philbrick born on
> the ocean according to report died 1761 age 95.' This indicates 1666 as the
> year of her birth, but as her supposed mother Sabina (Hemins) Locke had married
> Capt. Marston before 1663, either the year or age is doubtful. In 1810
> Jonathan and David Locke deposed: William Berry's wife, Judith, (who) was the
> daughter of Nathaniel Locke and his wife who came from England. Locke's wife's
> maiden name was Hemins, and she brought with her a coat-of-arms which referred
> to John Hemins (N. H. Gen. Rec. i. 139). Possibly, study of the lands of
> John Redman, William Fifield, Richard Sloper, etc. (especially of puzzling
> entries in Hampton record vol. 2: pgs. 125, 128) might confirm this tradition.
> 4 NATHANIEL, Great Island 1671, worked on highways there March - September
> 1672; soon died without issue (children). (See 3 1/2)."
I have changed the punctuation and words in places in order to help the
translation (I hope).
> What do the numbers in parenthesis after the names mean?
Those are the numbers where each respective person will be found under
the surname of each in GDMNH.
> Is "3 '1/2 NATHANIEL,' " still a *mystery*? Has anyone postively
> identified this Nathaniel and his ancestors/descendants? If so, where
> is it published and/or what "proofs" are available?
Not to my knowledge, but then I'm probably too old to have heard the
> Who is Wm. Fifield and Richard Sloper, and how do they fit into the
Perhaps they won't, but the compilers thought that these documents, land
deeds, might provide facts which relate somehow (unexplained) to
clarifying (proving or disproving) the family tradition that Sabina was
a HEMINS and that Nathaniel was the father of John, Judith, Sabina, and
possibly Nathaniel (Jr.), #4 in GDMNH. Dow (History of Hampton) didn't
profess to know her surname. Marston (The Marston Genealogy) thought
incorrectly that she was a PAGE. Neither of these mention Nathaniel 3
1/2. I guess the LOCKE genealogies (which I don't have) don't either.
I hope this helps!
Dick Marston, Marston Manor,
[ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dickmarston/ ]