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From: "Susan Malone" <>
Subject: Re: [ARMAGH] The Book of County Armagh
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 16:26:37 -0700
References: <673-3C80DA36-1507@storefull-2138.public.lawson.webtv.net>


Dear Shar,
I looked in the Book of County Armagh and didn't find them on the pages I
copied (pp 235-248, 250-251)--- well except for:
Walsh, Mrs. M., Carrowmanon
Walshe, Thos., Carrowmanon
these are in an unknown-to-me town, since I don't have p. 249 copied, and
these names are on p. 250. The towns are alphabetical, and this town is in
the district of Castleblayney, and the town is between Altnamachin and
Camlough.

The only church record I have is for the Presbyterian church in Kingsmills
(no RC records)....

It sounds like you have already done a lot of research so far- that's
wonderful! So, you may already have found what I have listed below. I
thought I'd check the Ulster Historical Foundation (membership) and here is
what I could find for you:

Distribution of Surname BURDEN
This report provides an indication as to the parishes and counties in the
province of Ulster (includes counties Antrim, Armagh, Cavan, Donegal, Down,
Fermanagh, Londonderry/Derry, Monaghan and Tyrone) where the above surname
is most concentrated. This may help in providing a focus for a search in a
case where only the county of origin of an ancestor is known. The results
are likely to be of most value for surnames that are not very common or
dispersed across Ulster.

The database is based on the 'Index to Surnames' or 'Householders Index'
that was compiled by the staff of the National Library of Ireland in the
1960's. Although this Index covers surnames only and gives no precise
references to the documents for the parish where the surnames appear, it
does record the occurrence of properties occupied by individuals of a
particular surname in each of the civil parishes of a county. It covers the
surnames of farmers (usually leaseholders) in the tithe applotment books
compiled 1823-1838 and also all names of property occupiers in the printed
version of the tenement valuation, known as 'Griffith Valuation', covering
all properties in Ulster 1857-1864. Whilst it records the exact number of
householders in the case of the Griffith Valuation, it provides only an
indication of the presence or absence of a surname in the tithe applotment
books.

(To-date the database includes the nine counties of the historic province of
Ulster but plans are being made to capture the data for the other three
provinces)

County Total
Down 3
Armagh 1
Antrim 0
Total Householders of that surname recorded in Griffith Valuation : 4

Total Number of Householders of that Surname in County Armagh
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Griffith Valuation
Tithe Survey
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Householders Civil Parish (Barony *) Poor Law
Union Year ofValuation Present In Parish Year ofSurvey
Recorded
1 MULLAGHBRACK (FEWS LOWER) ARMAGH
1864 No 1834
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1 Total Householders Recorded
* The name of the barony is listed only in cases where the civil parish is
located in more than one barony

I searched Irish Will Calendars, 1878-1900 and found no Burdens; then I
searched Irish Flax Growers List, 1796 and didn't find them there either.


WALSH
Distribution of Surname WALSH
County Total
Down 123
Monaghan 78
Donegal 76
Antrim 68
Cavan 41
Londonderry 39
Armagh 39
Tyrone 33
Fermanagh 32
Total Householders of that surname recorded in Griffith Valuation : 529

Total Number of Householders of that Surname in County Armagh
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Griffith Valuation
Tithe Survey
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Householders Civil Parish (Barony *) Poor Law Union Year
of Valuation Present In Parish Year of Survey
Recorded
2 ARMAGH (ARMAGH) ARMAGH
1864 No 1833
1 BALLYMORE BANBRIDGE, NEWRY
1864 No 1830
2 CLONFEACLE (ARMAGH) ARMAGH
1864 Yes 1833
1 CREGGAN CASTLEBLANEY
1864 No 1827
5 DRUMCREE LURGAN
1864 Yes 1827
1 EGLISH (ARMAGH) ARMAGH
1864 Yes 1833
2 EGLISH (TIRANNY) ARMAGH
1864 Yes 1833
1 KILLYMAN ARMAGH
1864 No 1825
1 KILMORE (ONEILLAND WEST) ARMAGH 1864
Yes 1833
2 LOUGHGALL (ONEILLAND WEST) ARMAGH 1864
Yes 1830
4 LOUGHGILLY (ORIOR UPPER) NEWRY
1864 Yes 1834
1 MAGHERALIN LURGAN
1864 Yes 1834
2 MONTIAGHS LURGAN
1864 Yes 1833
1 NEWRY (ORIOR UPPER) NEWRY
1864 No 0
2 NEWTOWNHAMILTON CASTLEBLANEY 1864
Yes 1830
1 SEAGOE LURGAN
1864 Yes 1830
7 SHANKILL LURGAN
1864 Yes 1833
2 TARTARAGHAN ARMAGH LURGAN
1864 Yes 1833
1 TYNAN (ARMAGH) ARMAGH
1864 No 1827
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39 Total Householders Recorded
* The name of the barony is listed only in cases where the civil parish is
located in more than one barony
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1796, Irish Flax Growers
Surname Firstname Parish County
Looms/Wheels
Walsh John Kilmore Armagh
2
Walsh Patrick Armagh Armagh
1
Walsh Patrick Loughgilly Armagh
1
Walsh Patrick Mullaughbrack [Mullaghbrack] Armagh 1

I searched Irish Will Calendars 1878-1900 and found:
Record Surname Firstname Date of Death Place Year
of Probate
WC-215215 Walsh John 24-10-79 Armagh
1879
WC-215355 Walsh Mary 1-1-00 Armagh
1900
WC-215624 Walsh Robert 6-1-82 Armagh
1882
WC-215697 Walsh Thomas 7-4-96 Armagh
1897


That's all I could find for you in my limited resources- I hope there is
something there that is useful!
Best wishes in your research,
Susan :-)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Shar" <>
To: <>
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 6:57 AM
Subject: Re: [ARMAGH] The Book of County Armagh


Susan;
What a lovely jesture, your willingness to do look ups is kind.

Would you please see if you can find a John BURDEN and his wife
Catherine WALSH?

In 1864, they had a daughter Bridget. Thenin 1866 a daughter Catherine
and then in 1868 a daughter Teresa. At least one of them was born in
Newry. I believe the other two were born in Armagh.

John was a railroad overseer on the railroad during this time frame.I
believe he is connected to the BURDEN'S who were from Kilkeel. The
BURDEN'S of tday are mostly all RC, as were the one's from Belfast.

Please see if you can find BURDEN or WALSH in any of the above . I so
appreciate your time and efforts.

Kind regards,

Shar/ USA




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