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From: Rita Chesterton <>
Subject: [Derry] Re: NIR-DERRY-D Digest V02 #66
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 23:50:00 -0400
References: <200204080605.g38653116560@lists5.rootsweb.com>


For Harry & Shirley Stevenson
I did a search at Ancestry.com in the Ireland Parish and Probate Records database and found the following family in Co. Antrim. They might not be your direct relatives, but they might be related in some way. Antrim was the only county that returned a Clark family.

Clifton Street Burying Ground, Belfast
O.S. Antrim 61. Grid Ref. 335752
Sacred to the memory of Thomas Clark who died on 05 Jan 1840 aged 49 years. Also Mary his wife who died on 01 Jun 1852 aged 52 years. Also Margaret Joyce Clark their eldest daughter who died on 24 Feb 1883 aged 59 years. Also their youngest son Thomas Clark, Brigade Surgeon A.M.D., formerly of 69th Regt, died 23 Dec 1891 aged 59 years. "He shall raise us up, and we shall live in his sight".




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> NIR-DERRY-D Digest Volume 02 : Issue 66
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> Today's Topics:
> #1 Re: NIR-DERRY-D Digest V02 #65 [Rita Chesterton <]
> #2 [Derry] Seeking Information [Harry and Shirley Stevenson <harsh]
> #3 Re: [Derry] Seeking Information []
> #4 [Derry] Irwin ["David Reeves" <]
> #5 Re: [Derry] ORANGMEN []
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> Subject: Re: NIR-DERRY-D Digest V02 #65
> Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 00:14:55 -0500
> From: Rita Chesterton <>
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> Reply to Mickie regarding Knights of Columbus and Orangemen.
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> Mickie.....The 1860's altercation you describe as happening in Ireland must have happened between the Orangemen and an organization other than the Knights of Columbus. The Knights of Columbus organization was founded here in USA, in Connecticut, in 1882. The attached link describes how it sprung from troubles suffered in US by Irish immigrants http://religiousmovements.lib.virginia.edu/nrms/Knights.html
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> > NIR-DERRY-D Digest Volume 02 : Issue 65
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> > Today's Topics:
> > #1 Re: [Derry] Londonderry Researcher [Marian Elder <]
> > #2 [Derry] ORANGMEN ["Mickie and Bernie" <]
> > #3 Re: [Derry] ORANGMEN [=?iso-8859-1?q?Nick=20Hoffman?= <n]
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> > Subject: Re: [Derry] Londonderry Researchers??
> > Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 17:53:53 -0800
> > From: Marian Elder <>
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> > wrote:
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> > >
> > > ==== NIR-DERRY Mailing List ====
> > > Don't overlook the broad resources available from RootsWeb, WorldGenWeb
> > > or Ancestry. If you don't know where to look, this is the place to ask!
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> > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to:
> > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237
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> > For those who are looking for researchers:
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> > There is a list of researchers on the P.R.O.N.I website. recently I contacted 4 or 5
> > of these, outlining my needs. I didn't get any positive replies from other roots
> > replies when I posed the same question as yourself, so I judged the commercial ones
> > by the responses I got and picked one. The prices range widely. My researcher
> > (whom I asked to examine 4 specific records for certain periods for a marriage)
> > didn't find anything which was disappointing but not unexpected. It cost me $100
> > Canadian or abt $66 US. It is hard to recommend a researcher who didn't find
> > anything! although he could hardly find what wasn't there. I did not want to give
> > carte blanche for a search as I am fairly thrifty, planning a trip to Ireland this
> > year, and prefer to do my own research.
> >
> > I believe (someone else might like to comment on this) that it is best to do your
> > homework yourself as much as possible at least for your first experience, that is
> > find out the exact names and call numbers, and years, for the records you want
> > searched. This is not an easy matter. There are some publications, such as
> > Greshams (can't remember the name) that are pretty up-to-date on the various parish
> > records but he concentrates mostly on R.C. church records. Probably if you e-mail
> > PRONI giving the record you want, i.e. Drumachose Presbyterian Church records they
> > will send back the details. Then you can decide whether they are worth searching
> > (as dates can be missing for the years you want.)
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> > What experiences have others had in this regard? Marian.
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> > Subject: [Derry] ORANGMEN
> > Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 21:36:37 -0700
> > From: "Mickie and Bernie" <>
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> > Can SKS tell me how to find information on the Orangemen and their activities in the mid 1860's, in Co's. Antrim \ L'derry. Family lore is that my ancestor was involved in a quite serious altercation between the Orangemen and the Knights of Columbus and shortly thereafter left Ireland as a stowaway on a ship bound for America. On arriving in N Y he worked to save for passage of his wife, their children and spouses. Have been unable to locate Passenger Lists or find dates of arrival for either he or his family. Have him located here and in N Ireland and have considerable data but would like to find documentation of this altercation. Any advice greatly appreciated.
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> > Subject: Re: [Derry] ORANGMEN
> > Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 11:31:48 +0100 (BST)
> > From: Nick Hoffman <>
> > To:
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> >
> > Have you tried the Ellis Island site?
> > http://home.pacbell.net/spmorse/ellis/ellis.html
> > I got this from a friend and was able to find the
> > passenger ship manifest that included my grandfather.
> > Good luck!
> > Nick
> >
> > --- Mickie and Bernie <> wrote: >
> > Can SKS tell me how to find information on the
> > > Orangemen and their activities in the mid 1860's, in
> > > Co's. Antrim \ L'derry. Family lore is that my
> > > ancestor was involved in a quite serious altercation
> > > between the Orangemen and the Knights of Columbus
> > > and shortly thereafter left Ireland as a stowaway on
> > > a ship bound for America. On arriving in N Y he
> > > worked to save for passage of his wife, their
> > > children and spouses. Have been unable to locate
> > > Passenger Lists or find dates of arrival for either
> > > he or his family. Have him located here and in N
> > > Ireland and have considerable data but would like to
> > > find documentation of this altercation. Any advice
> > > greatly appreciated.
> > >
> > > Mickie
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> > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237
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> Subject: [Derry] Seeking Information
> Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 11:04:52 -0400
> From: Harry and Shirley Stevenson <>
> To:
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> Hello,
>
> I am doing research on my GGGrandfather who was born in Ireland.
> I have found my Grandfather on a passenger list from 1849, stateing that he
> came from Ireland. He is also listed in the Potato Famine Book. I had not
> found any records in the U.S. that record where he lived in Ireland, and
> wondered if there are any records available that recorded people in Ireland
> when they left their homeland to venture to the United States.
> I would appreciate any advice you could give me.
>
> This is the only information that I have on my Grandfather:
>
> Name: Thomas H. Clark
> Birth: unknown
> Where: Ireland
> Married: Esther Ann (Unknown)
> Death: Nov. 13, 1866
> Where: Camden, New Jersey
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> Subject: Re: [Derry] Seeking Information
> Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 11:26:40 EDT
> From:
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> Please,
> Can you tell me what and where can I fine the "Potato Famin Book" you
> mentioned to the list? My step-grandfather came from Londonderry.
>
> Aloha
> Joe
> With interests in the following names: TATTERSALL, TOMLINSON, VEEVERS,
> HOLDEN, BOOTHMAN and ODDIE. All in the Lancashire area.
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> Subject: [Derry] Irwin
> Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 17:26:23 -0700
> From: "David Reeves" <>
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> I am looking for information on the history of James Irwin and Margaret Todd. They had a son named Thomas Todd Irwin. They came to the U.S. in 1822 from County Londonderry with at least two other family members, one may have been named Sam. The Irwins were Orangemen. The Irwins settled in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
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> Unfortunately I have no other information about their history in Ireland. I would appreciate any help.
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> Subject: Re: [Derry] ORANGMEN
> Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 20:47:55 EDT
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> Hi - the Orangemen have a site on the internet. Can';t recall it offhand,
> but if you do a search for it, it will come up..
>
> Connor
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