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From: "Donna E. Ristenbatt" <>
Subject: Re: [NJPASSAI-L] BMD Cert application
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 10:20:02 -0500
In-Reply-To: <F35FS2uQXwmHWOIOLkP0000566a@hotmail.com>


Dear Deborah, and Phyllis,

I was under the impression that those rules had changed and relaxed,
and that now one could obtain records for genealogical reasons - just
that they are not certified. I believe there was a letter to that effect, on
the lists.

Regards,
Donna Ristenbatt

On 25 Nov 2002, at 6:08, Deborah Johnson wrote:

> Dear Phyllis -
>
> Because of circumstances surrounding the attacks of Sept. 11, almost all of
> the Vital Records Offices in the State of New Jersey, beginning with
> Trenton have clamped down their security with regard to gaining documents,
> unless you go in person and look up the record.
>
> To obtain anything via mail anymore, you must, provide picture ID, and
> proof of it being your direct blood line, i.e., birth/death certificates
> from you back to the person. If someone, like in my case my grandfather,
> is still living, that person must sign a notorized letter saying you are
> who you say you are, as well as sending their birth certificate along to
> prove lineage to their parents. You must now also include the parents
> names of the person's certificate you're requesting. I and many others
> realize that this is the primary reason we ask for the documentation, but,
> this is the new rule here.
>
> While I realize this puts a great strain on those of us simply trying to do
> research, we must all remember that they are doing this for a reason.
>
> I would suggest to you, posting a SKS - Some Kind Soul - letter on the
> Mercer County NJ mailing list, which is the county Trenton is located in,
> asking someone if they could please search for these records for you the
> next time they physically go to the Archives.
>
> Best of Luck in your search.
>
> If you'd like, you can send me the names privately if you don't have subs.
> to ancestry.com and genealogy.com and I can see if I can find anything
> further for your search.
>
> Take care -
> Deb
> Bridgeton, NJ
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Phyllis Steel" <>
> >To:
> >Subject: [NJPASSAI-L] BMD Cert application
> >Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 15:40:49 +1100
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> >Dear Members, I need some help, I sent a letter to :-
> > New Jersey Dept of Health and Senior Services
> > Vital Statistics Registration
> > P.O Box 370
> > Trenton, NJ 08625-0370 on the 23 October 2002
> > For Genealogy Research only
> >
> >Requesting copies of a marriage and death certificate, one of each. after
> >I had sent the 'letter' i learned that there are official forms that one
> >completes, for this purpose, but as I had already sennt the letter, i
> >left, as I thought, well alone.
> >
> >To-day the 25 November, I received an envelope containing my returned
> >letter, s.a.s.e, and the cheque that I had sent to cover all costs, with a
> >note attached saying quote :- Try Archives For The Census. Here Is The
> >Number (609) 292 - 6265. Thank You, VITAL RECORDS unquote.
> >
> >Can a member please tell me where I went wrong !!!!!!! and why would I
> >want to apply for a Census?, when I actually want a Marriage and a death
> >certificate.
> >
> >The marriage is for a gt. Aunt, Phyllis (Phillis) Patience BARTLETT who
> >married a Herbert BELCHER in Passaic County about 1903, in 1905 she with
> >Herbert were living in 338 Belmont Avenue, Manchester Township,
> >
> >The death certificate is for my g, Grandfather James BARTLETT {father of
> >above Phyllis}, husband of Mary Ann Hall BARTLETT he died August 5 or 6 th
> >of August 1896 in Manchester Township, Passaic County.
> >
> > Can anyone help me please.
> > Phyllis Bartlett STEEL
> > In Qld, Australia.
>
>
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