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From: "roland elliott" <>
Subject: Re: Highway route #'s
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 16:32:50 -0700
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forest Service roads start at Latitudes,example - - -2n2,would be township
two north,well then a road was build between 2n1 and 1n2 and they did not
know what to do so they made up senseless #'s.When reporting Mary Juana or
fires by road or copter it is impossible if you are not talking to a Local.r
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil Van Camp" <>
To: "roland elliott" <>; <>
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 16:10
Subject: RE: Highway route #'s


> There is a Federal guideline for the interstate highway system.
> But there are always exceptions when something just won't work.
> & of course there are state highways with their own #'s. If you look on a
> road map, or signs along the road you will see a difference in the shield
> design for state vs. federal.
> I think it's mostly North / South odd #'s , East / West are mostly even
> #'s.
> Two digit #;s are for primary (mostly interstate) routes. Three digits,
are
> for fwys that connect two fwys, or go around metro areas. Thus in San
> Diego, the fwy that connects the I-5 with the I-8 is the I-805. & a bit
> north of that (Riverside / San Bernardino counties) when Cal-Trans build a
> route to avoid incomplete sections of the I-15, they ended up labeling it
> the I-215.
>
> Remember that the "Official direction" of a route can be unrelated to what
> your compass may say. It is based on the general route, form a starting
> point to the ending point. Thus in Orange county, you can be driving due
> west on the north bound I-405 & be blinded by the setting sun.
> In San Bernardino, SR-30 goes straight north from the I-10, then straight
> east to the I-215, & there is a 259 that I think is an SR, but it is so
> short it doesn't even have a sign. You can identify it by the numbers on
3
> or 4 emergency call boxes.
>
> To borrow an example from your msg below, California's SR-1 is a state
route
> that long predates any of this. You can check with the auto club, but I

> think the number was some sort of vanity or tourism promotion gimmick.
> While the 101 is a federal route.
>
> & then there are county highways, & USDA forestry roads of which I can
only
> say, "I ain't going there." I had to report a crash on one of them once
> where I could only locate it as " ____ miles east of (a county road) at
the
> ____ foot level." you can bet they sent me back to do that over again.
>
> Phil
> .
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: roland elliott [mailto:]
> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 9:10 AM
> To:
> Subject: Re: I-5 and the old 99
>
>
> Phil correct me,but Caltrans the State Hwy Dept. started naming hwys West
to
> East with uneven #'s and North to South with even #'s,now here is where it
> gets tricky,I think the Namer drank a lot,Hwy #1 then #101,hwy
#20-30,40[now
> 80],then 50,88,4.108,120,140 etc.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jan Davis" <>
> To: "roland elliott" <>
> Cc: <>
> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 7:56
> Subject: Re: I-5 and the old 99
>
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