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From: Howard Grisso <>
Subject: RE: Casner/Pitner Families
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 15:16:13 -0500 (EST)

The Canadian River of Oklahoma that you talk about has its beginnings on the
Colorado-New Mexico border, west of Raton, NM, near Costillia Peak. It then
runs southeast to south of Raton, before going south, then southeast again,
then east north of Tucumcari, then continues east into Texas. I would start
checking the counties around Tucumcari first, since this is the closest area
to Clovis, NM.

Good luck in your search,
Howard Grisso SMITH KANE BATESEL MOLLOY MORRISON DEATHERAGE
Medford, OR


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Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 09:00:16 -0600
From: "Elizabeth E. Freeman" <>
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Subject: Suggestions Please - CASNER Surname
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Hello:

I have found this list most helpful, so here I am again, seeking
suggestions.

I have a family by the name of CASNER. There is the father, John Casner,
and the son, John Lewis Casner. They are found in Donley County on the 1870
census, in Hall County on the 1880 census, in Baylor County in 1881, then in
Haskell County from 1881 through June 13, 1902. In 1899 they are both tried
for their part in the killing of the grown stepson of the elder John Casner.
The second wife of the elder John Casner (Jane Pitner Casner) dies 5-30-1898
in Haskell County. Pitner or Pittner was the name of her first husband. It
is her son who is killed by John and John Lewis Casner in a gunfight. Both
John and John Lewis appeal their conviction and win the appeal. The last
official record found of John and John Lewis is 6-12-1902 in Haskell County
when they are at the courthouse and signed papers selling the last of their
range land.

The family of John Lewis Casner are next found in Lincoln Co., NM. His wive
is on the 1910 NM Lincoln Co., Census.
1906 one of the daughters marries, place unknown; first child born early
1907, Lincoln Co.,NM
12-27-1907 one of the daughters marries at Arrollo, Lincoln Co., NM
2-25-1908 one of the sons marries in Meek, Lincoln Co., NM
10-12-1909 the wife of John Lewis Casner remarries in Carrizozo, Lincoln
Co., NM.
1-11-1910 another of the sons marries in Clovis, Curry Co., NM
1-25-1915 another daughter marries at Arabella, NM
5-4-1917 another son marries in Carrizozo, Lincoln Co., NM

John Lewis Casner is said to have died in 1-1903 on the 'Canadian River'
while hunting quail to fee his very large family. Nothing is ever said
when/where the elder John Casner may have died. My thinking is that both
the elder John Canser and John Lewis Casner died while migrating from TX to
NM. The only Canadian River of which I am aware is in Oklahoma but I have
found no record of them in OK.

Would appreciate suggestions on where I might find information on:
-where the elder John Casner and John Lewis Casner may have died
-where the family may have been in 1906 when the first daughter married
-where might Jane Pitner/Pittner Casner be buried (I have had Haskell County
searched); maybe the elder John is buried with her.

I have personally searched the records in Curry, Lincoln, Chaves, Roosevelt
Counties NM without success. My thinking is they may have died in TX
somewhere. I have already tried the TX State Archives. Any suggestions?


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