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From: John Burke <>
Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] The Irish Volunteers
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 07:42:09 -0400
In-Reply-To: <8bd260360610171852n22b0f83bna65d45f3061fd3c9@mail.gmail.com>


Liz,

So well put. I'm impressed. :)

John

-----Original Message-----
From: [mailto:]
On Behalf Of Liz Haren
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 9:53 PM
To: CIARAN COLGAN;
Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] The Irish Volunteers


To compare the Irish Volunteers to the racist, anti-Catholic, narrow-minded,
ignorant, knuckle dragging Orange Order, is insulting.


On 10/17/06, CIARAN COLGAN <> wrote:
> Clare
>
> There is reference to Volunteers in various episodes of Irish history.
> They were in the main voluntary organisations which were amateur
> military organisations raised during periods of independence struggles
> with political aspects and usually linked to politicians who wanted an
> Irish Parliament or more independence. These organisations became very
> formidable pressure groups.
>
> A modern day example would be the Orange Order. The last such
> movements for the Nationalist community would have the I R B and for
> the non Nationalist would have been the Ulster Volunteer Force. It
> was a splinter group of the IRB who organised the 1916 Rising
> gradually transforming themselves into the IRA.
>
> I note that your notes may refer to an organisation in N. J. which may
> have been specific to N. J. However all the bigger known Irish
> Volunteer movements had strong connections with the Irish Community in
> the USA and found inspiration funding and leadership from sister
> organisations in th USA.
>
> I hope the above helps your understanding.
>
>
> ciaran colgan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Clare Higgins" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 1:12 PM
> Subject: [NY-IRISH] The Irish Volunteers
>
>
> > Hi, everybody. Can someone tell me what the "Irish Volunteers" were
> > all about? What where they volunteering for? My maternal
> > great-grandfather and two of his brothers were members in New York
> > City during the 1890's. My paternal great-granduncle, John Higgins,
> > was also a member, in Hudson, NY.
> >
> > In my grandfather's research notes, it says under John's name,
> > "Irish Run LA/Soldier, 14th N.Y. Vols." I have no idea what "Run LA"
> > means. Does anybody? Please advise. Thank you.
> >
> > Clare Higgins
> >
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