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From: "Liz Haren" <>
Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] Hudson River to Lake Erie
Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 20:59:43 -0500
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My Mother, born in 1916, remembers seeing those signs when she was a young
woman looking for work in Hoboken, NJ ! So they were around for quite
awhile.

Liz

On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 7:42 AM, Gerry Eberwein <>wrote:

> If I have history correct, that was the era when the social climate in New
> York City was anti-Irish and there was no work there. In fact that was the
> time the infamous signs, "Irish Need Not Apply," were also posted along
> with, "Help Wanted." So many would do something to get enough to move on.
> The choice of the first stop was probably because there was a job there.
>
> Gerry
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [mailto:]
> On Behalf Of Clare Higgins
> Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 04:28
> To:
> Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] Hudson River to Lake Erie
>
> My GGGPs came to New York in 1850 but the first census record I have shows
> them living in Moira, Franklin County, NY, upstate. I wonder if they took
> one of those steamboats. I also wonder why they chose Moira. In 1853 they
> moved to Hudson, NY.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [mailto:]
> On Behalf Of Sandra J Hawley
> Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 2:50 PM
> To:
> Subject: [NY-IRISH] Hudson River to Lake Erie
>
> Hello,
>
> I have been reading a book called "Going to America" by Terry Coleman,
> published by Genealogical Publishing Company in 1972. It is not solely
> about the Irish and includes English paupers and others as well. But
> it says that before the railways came to the area in 1852, almost all
> emigrants traveling inland, would take a steamboat up the Hudson River
> out of NY to Albany and then the Erie Canal to Buffalo, where, I
> presume, they would get other transportation to reach their final
> destination. In my ancestors case, it was Wisconsin.
>
> My question is, are there any records of Irish emigrants taking this
> route? If, so, where? Or is there any other source of information
> about this route inland?
>
> My Irish stayed in NY for some years - family story is that it was to
> earn enough money to travel further west. I have not found exactly
> where in NY they stayed to earn this money - whether in NYC or
> elsewere. Within 5 years of when they emigrated, they were settled in
> Central Wisconsin. The family emigrated over a period of several years,
> most in 1851, there may have been a few as early as 1848. If, however,
> no one emigrated until 1851, it is too late for the 1850 census and they
> were in Wisconsin by 1855.
>
> The first census records I have found for this family are in 1860. I
> have copies of naturalization papers, declaration of intent and
> baptismal records for 11 children born in Ireland between 1816 and
> 1834. I can find nothing of them in NY even though two of the daughters
> had children born there in 1851 - I have been unable to obtain their
> death records that may give an indication of their birthplace. But this
> is an area where I haven't given up.
> My real question relates to records of the Hudson River - Erie Canal
> emigration route inland.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Sandra r
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