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From: "Ceal Wutka" <>
Subject: Re: Re: [NYC] Re: NYC-ROOTS-D Digest V00 #628 (NYC & NYS Census Indexes, Alexander)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 07:33:09 -0400
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You say that separate indexes exist for those years, but are you answering
for New York or for Atlanta? I was answering this question for someone who
is going to the SE NARA next Tuesday and they may not have each of those
books. They only have books that have been donated, so there are gaps in
the information, especially for states not in our region.

Also, Edie, I think I gave you wrong directions in the microfilm reading
room. As you walk in, the volunteer desk will be on your right and the
small library will be to your left. A computer with a soundex lookup is now
located in the main lobby. Free lockers are provided for your purse, etc.
Notebooks, pens, computers are permitted in the research/reading room.
Bring quarters for the printers!

Ceal

----- Original Message -----
From: <>
To: <>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 11:39 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [NYC] Re: NYC-ROOTS-D Digest V00 #628 (NYC & NYS Census
Indexes, Alexander)


> Hi Ceal,
>
> Small correction here.
>
> Separate book indexes for 1850, 1860, and 1870 do exist for NYC. They're
at
> NARA with the statewide indexes. They also have the 1870 NYC (first
> enumeration) index on CD-ROM.
>
> Edie, if you think your Cesar probably lived in NYC with his parents and
that
> his father was Henry, best to start with the NYC indexes and look at all
the
> enumerations for every Henry Alexander. If you find one with a son Cesar
of
> the right age, you may have a hit. If that doesn't work, try looking under
> Joan and see if a Cesar is enumerated in the household.
>
> If THAT doesn't work, then you could branch out to the 1860 New York State
> index.
>
> By the way, have you tried NYC birth registers for 1858 for Cesar? (At NYC
> Municipal Archives, NYPL, NYG&BS.) Not many births were registered, but
it's
> worth a look.
>
> Best,
>
> Leslie
>
> Leslie Corn
> NYC Genealogical Research, Due Diligence, & Missing Heirs
> New York, NY
> NYG&BS Library Committee, Education & Publications Committee, and
> Subcommittee on Collection Development
> http://www.citydirectories.psmedia.com/city/essay_main1.html
>
>
> In a message dated 9/22/00 10:12:25 AM, wrote:
>
> >First, there are only Soundex files beginning in 1880. Before that,
there
> >
> >are indexes to each census and these are by state, not city. So if he
was
> >
> >born in New York, it doesn't matter where when you look at an index for
> >
> >1860. Now, if the family moved in 1859, then he would be in the SC index
> >
> >for 1860. Keep in mind that Cesar won't be in the index himself if he is
> >
> >with his parents. The listing will be under head of household only and
you
> >
> >will have to look at every possible census listing.
> >
> >
> >
> >The 1870 census missed a lot of people. All you can do is try to find
him.
> >
> >Once you find the names of his parents, you can look in city directories
to
> >
> >try to establish an address for his family. I find that my ancestors
don't
> >
> >show up in every city directory each year.
> >
> >
> >
> >When you go to the SE NARA on Tuesday, you will find bookshelves to your
> >
> >right as you enter the microfilm reading room. Most of these are census
> >
> >indexes to various states. Check out New York and see if an 1860 index
is
> >
> >there. If not, it might be available on CD at the front desk. I'll
check
> >
> >out an online index and email you privately if I find anything.
> >
> >
> >
> >The volunteers in the NARA center will help you if you are lost. You
don't
> >
> >have to know a district ahead of time if his parents show up in the
index.
> >
> >
> >
> >Ceal
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >
> >From: <>
> >
> >To: <>
> >
> >Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 9:08 PM
> >
> >Subject: [NYC] Re: NYC-ROOTS-D Digest V00 #628
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> Dear Folks, I could use some HELP!!
> >
> >>
> >
> >> I have a Cesar Alexander b 1858 in NY.
> >
> >> All records give his birthplace as either NY or New York.....none say
NYC
> >
> >but
> >
> >> for now, I am assuming that is what is meant.
> >
> >>
> >
> >>
> >
> >> born 26 Nov 1858 NYC
> >
> >> 1860 census- SHOULD be in NYC census/SOUNDEX???
> >
> >>
> >
> >> 1866 according to a Darlington , SC newspaper article, started living
in
> >
> >SC
> >
> >> when he would have been 8 years old ....IF this is correct, the 1860
NYC
> >
> >> census would be the ONLY NYC census he would be in!!
> >
> >>
> >
> >> 1870 census...SHOULD be in Charleston SC as newspaper article says he
> >
> >moved
> >
> >> there with his parents.....BUT I can NOT find him ANYWHERE in SC in
1870
> >
> >>
> >
> >> 1877 living in Charleston according to newspaper article,,,,still no
> >
> >trace
> >
> >> of him in SC records thus far
> >
> >>
> >
> >> 1878 arrived in Darlington (newspaper article dated 1890)
> >
> >>
> >
> >> 1880 census Darlinton COunty, SC FOUND!!!!!!
> >
> >> Caesar Alexander page 2 household 9
> >
> >> HE STAYED HERE UNTIL HE DIED 22 Jan 1924
> >
> >> I do not know where he was for the first 20 years of his life
> >
> >>
> >
> >> ONE source.....some very OLD handwritten genealogy papers say his
father
> >
> >was
> >
> >> HENRY and his mother was JOAN.
> >
> >
> >
> >> Any help on identifying the districts/films in NYC that I might try
first
> >
> >> would be greatly appreciated. I will be going to the NARA on Tuesday.
> >
> >> Thanks in Advance.
> >
> >> Edie in Atlanta
>
>
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