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From: "S Larson" <>
Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA-L] Amelia Ann WILLIAMS
Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 11:20:29 -0700
Mary, quite possibly our Williams and Smiths are all related. Sorry about the email, I tried to send it Thursday evening and only
got error messages but it went out fine this morning.
The Smith family I am researching is from Franklin, Delaware, NY. That is the only direct clue I have. My gggrandfather, George
Leroy Smith, was born in Franklin in 1830. Whether the family remained there or not, is not certain, but I am pretty sure they
did. George's parents were Samuel Sheldon(?) Smith and Jenett Martin. George must have had a little gypsy blood in him because he
was never content to stay in one place for very long and with a name like George Smith, he's a tough guy to track. From what study
I have done in Delaware County, I have the feeling many of the Smith's are related. I have an 80 year old aunt that as a child
asked many questions and so she has a lot of information. I have found thru time most of it to be reliable but sometimes there are
things that get mixed up. She told me her mother, Clara Hamblin was born to George and Amelia's daughter, Ella and she did not
want the child, so George and Amelia legally adopted and raised Clara (I have found no adoption papers). She also said George had
brothers named Albert and Benjamin. Albert served in the Civil War and Benjamin was lazy and had been in trouble of some kind and
was about to be hung and a lady said she would marry him and straighten him out. So they released him and he married the lady
(sounds a little unlikely to me, but my aunt has repeated this story many times). Geroge's death certificate states he was born in
Connecticut but the 1900 federal census states both he and Amelia were born in Vermont (it seems as though the person giving the
info to the census taker, which was probably either George or Amelia, would have a better idea of where they were born than their
daughter did when she gave the info on the death certificate, so I assume they were born in VT. There was a Samuel Smith who came
to Delaware County from Bennington, Bennington, VT around 1800, and his father had been killed in the Battle of Bennington (I would
assume that took place in VT). There were a number of Samuel Smith's in Delaware county in the 1830 federal census:
Samuel Smith - Davenport, NY - males: u5=1 5-10=1 15-20=1 30-40=1 females: 5-10=2 30-40=1
Samuel Smith - Sidney, NY - males: u5=1 5-10=1 30-40=1 females: u5=1 5-10-1 10-15=1 30-40=1
Samuel Smith - Franklin, NY - males: u5=2 5-10=1 15-20=1 40-50=1 females: 10-15=2 20-30=1 (there was a faint mark in the females
50-60 but it looks erased).
Samuel Smith - Middletown, NY males: u5=2 10-15=1 15-20=1 40-50=1 females: 5-10=1 10-15=1 30-40=1
My George Smith was born 14 Oct 1830, so probably was not on the census record (I did not record the date it was taken, will check
that out when I visit the Federal Archives in Seattle on June 10th).
1850 Federal Census for Franklin, Delawere, NY lists:
173/185 Smith, Samuel Jr. 50 male farmer 700 acres born VT
Gennett 45 female born VT
Ruth A 15 female born NY
Albert 13 male born NY
Egbert 10 male born NY
Ellen C 8 female born NY
Listed right below them:
174/186 Smith, Benjamin 21 male born NY
Elizabeth 24 female born NY
This looks like it is my family.
This is getting complicated! Let me know which Smith's family you are researching and maybe we can connect.
> From: Mary Cable <>
> Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA-L] Amelia Ann WILLIAMS
> Date: Thursday, May 21, 1998 5:40 AM
> I read your message to Gail, she and I are tracing the Williams family.
> I am also looking for Smith family from Franklin N. Y. Julia Smith was
> married to William Holiday of Colchester. She transfered her membership
> to the Colcchester Church from Church in Franklin along with her sister.
> Julia Holiday had a child George W., who died Feb.22 1844, also a son
> Samuel died Oct. 1834 11 years old.They are both buried in the old
> cemetery at Colchester. I have some imformation on Julia's sisters Could
> this be the same Smith family? I know what searching Smiths is like . I
> forgot to put the date they transfered it was 1813 I got the imformation
> from the Presbyterian Church Archives in Philadelphia. Mary
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