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From: "Suzanne Wade" <>
Subject: Cutler-Traver/s lines
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 20:52:17 -0700
In-Reply-To: <005f01c42a57$f864bf50$0502a8c0@Tigger>


Jennifer,
I don't know--this is part of my problem! I know VERY LITTLE--a couple
sentences from a book on the Cutler lines. Basically, Nathan Cutler mar a
Betsey Traver/s, a near relative of the Vail/Vieles, and who had also a
close relative Jacob Allen living in Cherry Valley(this would be late
1700's, early 1800's). Allens(and maybe others of this group) were
apparently Quakers, which would lead me to suspect them not to be the German
variety. I watch both the German and English ...have read a couple of the
English Traver/s books, and cannot definitely identify the Isaac Traver who
I know was a brother. Very frustrating!! Part of these families went to
Canada during/shortly after the Revolution and mostly returned to NY...but
this hasn't helped much yet either!. Any thoughts much appreciated. Happy
to share whatever I have...which, unfortunately is very little.
Suzanne

-----Original Message-----
From: Jennifer Inskeep [mailto:]
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 4:58 PM
To:
Subject: Re: [NYDUTCHE] Delamater Carriage Company


Suzanne, is Betsey an english Traver or a german Palatine Treber? Jenny
----- Original Message -----
From: "Suzanne Wade" <>
To: <>
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 4:45 PM
Subject: RE: [NYDUTCHE] Delamater Carriage Company


> Thank you, Phil, for the helpful info. Will see where this leads me! Have
a
> wonderful weekend. You must be the resident Delamater/Delamarter expert!
I
> suspect you already know this, but her grandmother's name was Betsey
> Traver/s. She is actually the one I am after! All I know at this
point(from
> Nathan's Rev. pension, is that her brother's name was Isaac Traver/s--very
> hard to tell if an "s" exists after his name as is listed both ways. And,
> like your Delamater/Delamarter, sometimes "americanized", sometimes not,
> etc. etc. This all adds to our adventure, right?? I have them both (well,
> she as female and right age) on Lodi, Seneca Co. 1830 NY census; but no
one
> seems to be able to locate their burial, and her dod. Guessing that she
may
> have outlived Nathan(d. 1838) and lived with kids elsewhere.
> Suzanne in sunny CA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Philip D Delamarter [mailto:]
> Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 7:50 AM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [NYDUTCHE] Delamater Carriage Company
>
>
> My records say she was the daughter of James Cutler and Polly Robbins.
>
> She is recorded in the New York 1850 census, page 252, #1611-1787,, roll
> 197, Oct. 7, living in Coxsackie township, Greene County, age 34. She was
> also known as Betsy Ann. Her grandfather, Nathan, fought in the
> Revolutionary War.
>
> Married - February 02, 1839 - I am guessing that she was married in
> Coxsackie, as that is where her first child was born.
>
> Isaac died May 29, 1848
> Elizabeth died - June 01, 1886
>
> Her youngest son lived in Bayonne, NJ.
>
> Let me know what you find.
>
> Phil DeLamarter
>
>
> On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 06:50:20 -0700 "Suzanne Wade" <>
> writes:
> > Thanks, Phil, for your reply. I am mostly interested in Isaac's
> > wife, Eliz.
> > Cutler to follow her line. Do you happen to have location of
> > Isaac/Eliz.
> > marriage, place/date of death (for either/both)? Trying to place
> > them in
> > census, and locate obits, etc. Do you know if they were Quakers?
> > My appreciation,
> > Suzanne in CA
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Philip D Delamarter [mailto:]
> > Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 6:20 AM
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: [NYDUTCHE] Delamater Carriage Company
> >
> >
> > Yes, Suzanne, I do have them in my file. How can I help you?
> >
> > Phil DeLamarter
> > Connecting With Our Past
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 09:33:22 -0700 "Suzanne Wade"
> > <>
> > writes:
> > > Phil or other Delamater researchers,
> > > Do you have an Isaac B.S. Delamater(ca 1803 NY) in your files?
> > He
> > > married
> > > an Elizabeth Ann Cutler. Believe they had two sons, James and
> > Smith,
> > > and
> > > several daughters.
> > > Thanks,
> > > Suzanne in CA
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Philip D Delamarter [mailto:]
> > > Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 7:08 AM
> > > To:
> > > Subject: Re: [NYDUTCHE] Delamater Carriage Company
> > >
> > >
> > > Mary Anne,
> > >
> > > Thank you so very much for taking the time to look this up. I
> > have
> > > not
> > > yet been able to identify who everyone is from the City
> > directory.
> > > However, it does seem clear that the Proprietor of the City
> > > Repository
> > > was John W. Delamater, son of Edward B. Delamater and Julia
> > Myers.
> > >
> > > Edward B. was the manufacturer of the Delamater Carriage Company.
> > > His
> > > father, Radcliff, was a harness maker. The Delamater Carriage
> > > Company,
> > > located at 50 Market Street, had a catalogue made up of the
> > various
> > > styles and types of strictly high grade carriages that could be
> > > hand-made
> > > to order. The introduction to the catalogue says that they were
> > not
> > > competing with cheap of factory work, but aiming to build the
> > best
> > > wagons
> > > on the market. "With our long experience, and using nothing but
> > the
> > > very
> > > best and finest material, and employing only skilled workmen, we
> > > know our
> > > production can only be equaled by a few and excelled by none." I
> > > recently
> > > came across a string-tied copy of the catalogue, produced by Ware
> > > Bros.
> > > of Philadelphia, and purchased it on E-bay.
> > >
> > > The Fred(erick) R. mentioned below was the brother of John W.
> > > Delamater
> > > and son of Edward B. Now, if I can just figure out the rest of
> > > these
> > > individuals that you so kindly shared.
> > >
> > > God Bless and thank you once again,
> > >
> > > Phil DeLamarter
> > >
> > > On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 19:07:02 EDT writes:
> > > > The following is from the 1924 Poughkeepsie City Directory:
> > > >
> > > > Delamater, Annie Widow of John h 34 Glenwood ave Arlington
> > > > Clarence, sec h 2Randolph ave
> > > > Edward R. asst mgr, h 21 North ave
> > > >
> > > > Delmater, Fred R.,garage, automobile & carriage repairing, body
> > > > building,
> > > > trimming & painting, storage, 121 - 123 Washington ST. tel
> > 2137;
> > > h
> > > > 27 Marshall.
> > > > tel 858-W
> > > > Harold w. ins agt. 62 Market h Titusville rd
> > > > Harry, custodian Clinton House h 549 Main
> > > > Jane , nurse, h 123 Cannon
> > > > Mary, widow of Peter, h 165 Cannon
> > > > Octavia, stenographer, h 37 Marshall
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > This is how it looks in the book. The bold print is how Fred
> > > > Delamater is
> > > > listed. Hope this helps some.
> > > > Mary Anne
> > > >
> > > >
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