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From: Philip D Delamarter <>
Subject: Re: [NYDUTCHE] Cutler-Traver/s lines
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 09:22:52 -0400


Suzanne,

Just a thought, but have you pusued Quaker Archieves, if one exists?
I have found a wealth of information from Methodist Archives on several
of my ancestors.

Phil

On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 20:52:17 -0700 "Suzanne Wade" <>
writes:
> Jennifer,
> I don't know--this is part of my problem! I know VERY LITTLE--a
> couple
> sentences from a book on the Cutler lines. Basically, Nathan Cutler
> mar a
> Betsey Traver/s, a near relative of the Vail/Vieles, and who had
> also a
> close relative Jacob Allen living in Cherry Valley(this would be
> late
> 1700's, early 1800's). Allens(and maybe others of this group) were
> apparently Quakers, which would lead me to suspect them not to be
> the German
> variety. I watch both the German and English ...have read a couple
> of the
> English Traver/s books, and cannot definitely identify the Isaac
> Traver who
> I know was a brother. Very frustrating!! Part of these families
> went to
> Canada during/shortly after the Revolution and mostly returned to
> NY...but
> this hasn't helped much yet either!. Any thoughts much
> appreciated. Happy
> to share whatever I have...which, unfortunately is very little.
> Suzanne
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jennifer Inskeep [mailto:]
> Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 4:58 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [NYDUTCHE] Delamater Carriage Company
>
>
> Suzanne, is Betsey an english Traver or a german Palatine Treber?
> Jenny
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Suzanne Wade" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 4:45 PM
> Subject: RE: [NYDUTCHE] Delamater Carriage Company
>
>
> > Thank you, Phil, for the helpful info. Will see where this leads
> me! Have
> a
> > wonderful weekend. You must be the resident Delamater/Delamarter
> expert!
> I
> > suspect you already know this, but her grandmother's name was
> Betsey
> > Traver/s. She is actually the one I am after! All I know at this
> point(from
> > Nathan's Rev. pension, is that her brother's name was Isaac
> Traver/s--very
> > hard to tell if an "s" exists after his name as is listed both
> ways. And,
> > like your Delamater/Delamarter, sometimes "americanized",
> sometimes not,
> > etc. etc. This all adds to our adventure, right?? I have them
> both (well,
> > she as female and right age) on Lodi, Seneca Co. 1830 NY census;
> but no
> one
> > seems to be able to locate their burial, and her dod. Guessing
> that she
> may
> > have outlived Nathan(d. 1838) and lived with kids elsewhere.
> > Suzanne in sunny CA
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Philip D Delamarter [mailto:]
> > Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 7:50 AM
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: [NYDUTCHE] Delamater Carriage Company
> >
> >
> > My records say she was the daughter of James Cutler and Polly
> Robbins.
> >
> > She is recorded in the New York 1850 census, page 252,
> #1611-1787,, roll
> > 197, Oct. 7, living in Coxsackie township, Greene County, age 34.
> She was
> > also known as Betsy Ann. Her grandfather, Nathan, fought in the
> > Revolutionary War.
> >
> > Married - February 02, 1839 - I am guessing that she was married
> in
> > Coxsackie, as that is where her first child was born.
> >
> > Isaac died May 29, 1848
> > Elizabeth died - June 01, 1886
> >
> > Her youngest son lived in Bayonne, NJ.
> >
> > Let me know what you find.
> >
> > Phil DeLamarter
> >
> >
> > On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 06:50:20 -0700 "Suzanne Wade"
> <>
> > writes:
> > > Thanks, Phil, for your reply. I am mostly interested in
> Isaac's
> > > wife, Eliz.
> > > Cutler to follow her line. Do you happen to have location of
> > > Isaac/Eliz.
> > > marriage, place/date of death (for either/both)? Trying to
> place
> > > them in
> > > census, and locate obits, etc. Do you know if they were
> Quakers?
> > > My appreciation,
> > > Suzanne in CA
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Philip D Delamarter [mailto:]
> > > Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 6:20 AM
> > > To:
> > > Subject: Re: [NYDUTCHE] Delamater Carriage Company
> > >
> > >
> > > Yes, Suzanne, I do have them in my file. How can I help you?
> > >
> > > Phil DeLamarter
> > > Connecting With Our Past
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 09:33:22 -0700 "Suzanne Wade"
> > > <>
> > > writes:
> > > > Phil or other Delamater researchers,
> > > > Do you have an Isaac B.S. Delamater(ca 1803 NY) in your
> files?
> > > He
> > > > married
> > > > an Elizabeth Ann Cutler. Believe they had two sons, James and
> > > Smith,
> > > > and
> > > > several daughters.
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Suzanne in CA
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Philip D Delamarter [mailto:]
> > > > Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 7:08 AM
> > > > To:
> > > > Subject: Re: [NYDUTCHE] Delamater Carriage Company
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mary Anne,
> > > >
> > > > Thank you so very much for taking the time to look this up. I
> > > have
> > > > not
> > > > yet been able to identify who everyone is from the City
> > > directory.
> > > > However, it does seem clear that the Proprietor of the City
> > > > Repository
> > > > was John W. Delamater, son of Edward B. Delamater and Julia
> > > Myers.
> > > >
> > > > Edward B. was the manufacturer of the Delamater Carriage
> Company.
> > > > His
> > > > father, Radcliff, was a harness maker. The Delamater Carriage
> > > > Company,
> > > > located at 50 Market Street, had a catalogue made up of the
> > > various
> > > > styles and types of strictly high grade carriages that could
> be
> > > > hand-made
> > > > to order. The introduction to the catalogue says that they
> were
> > > not
> > > > competing with cheap of factory work, but aiming to build the
> > > best
> > > > wagons
> > > > on the market. "With our long experience, and using nothing
> but
> > > the
> > > > very
> > > > best and finest material, and employing only skilled workmen,
> we
> > > > know our
> > > > production can only be equaled by a few and excelled by none."
> I
> > > > recently
> > > > came across a string-tied copy of the catalogue, produced by
> Ware
> > > > Bros.
> > > > of Philadelphia, and purchased it on E-bay.
> > > >
> > > > The Fred(erick) R. mentioned below was the brother of John W.
> > > > Delamater
> > > > and son of Edward B. Now, if I can just figure out the rest
> of
> > > > these
> > > > individuals that you so kindly shared.
> > > >
> > > > God Bless and thank you once again,
> > > >
> > > > Phil DeLamarter
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 19:07:02 EDT writes:
> > > > > The following is from the 1924 Poughkeepsie City Directory:
> > > > >
> > > > > Delamater, Annie Widow of John h 34 Glenwood ave Arlington
> > > > > Clarence, sec h 2Randolph ave
> > > > > Edward R. asst mgr, h 21 North ave
> > > > >
> > > > > Delmater, Fred R.,garage, automobile & carriage repairing,
> body
> > > > > building,
> > > > > trimming & painting, storage, 121 - 123 Washington ST. tel
> > > 2137;
> > > > h
> > > > > 27 Marshall.
> > > > > tel 858-W
> > > > > Harold w. ins agt. 62 Market h Titusville rd
> > > > > Harry, custodian Clinton House h 549 Main
> > > > > Jane , nurse, h 123 Cannon
> > > > > Mary, widow of Peter, h 165 Cannon
> > > > > Octavia, stenographer, h 37 Marshall
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > This is how it looks in the book. The bold print is how
> Fred
> > > > > Delamater is
> > > > > listed. Hope this helps some.
> > > > > Mary Anne
> > > > >
> > > > >
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