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From: Matt Townsend <>
Subject: Re: [NYDUTCHE] [NYPUTNAM] My Charles Townsend Sr. brick wall
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2006 19:03:53 -0800
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Hi Jerre. I do not have that reference and it's unfortunate that it
doesn't have citations of primary sources.

Yes, Gen. James was another son of this Charles Sr. The grandfather
was Elihu. Well, maybe. A dilemma is that James and his brothers
either had Elihu as a grandfather or an uncle.

I've looked for the book on Google books but it's not there yet. I'd
like to look at the text and pages around your extract to see if I
can get some context.

Does anyone know where an online copy might be?

Matt

At 07:35 PM 10/25/2006 -0400, you wrote:
>Matt,
>
>You probably already have this info, but just in case:
>
>Joseph O. Curtis' "Descendants of Elisha Cole From Cape Cod to Putnam Co,
>NY, (Tobias A. Wright, NY, 1909), p.28"
>states "Gen. James Townsend, b. 1756, son of Charles Townsend.... He was a
>grandson of Elisha Townsend,
>who was b. at Oyster Bay, August 1704 and d. North Salem, July, 1805."
>Unfortunately, no sources provided in the Curtis book.
>
>Jerre
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [mailto:]
>On Behalf Of Matt Townsend
>Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 8:21 PM
>To: ;
>Subject: [NYPUTNAM] My Charles Townsend Sr. brick wall
>
>
>It has been a long while since I posted my brick wall. Here goes. Any
>new ideas will be appreciated. I'm cross posting this since in
>Charles' (below) time there was no Putnam County.
>
>Many researchers have been trying to find the family of Charles
>Townsend Sr. of Dutchess County, New York. Nobody has found proof of
>his family or ancestry. We believe we know his sons, yet cannot prove
>it. We don't know when or where he was born or died. There is plenty
>of evidence to come up with 3 possible lines from the Oyster Bay
>brothers. These are:
>1. John, Daniel, Daniel, Charles Sr.
>2. John, Daniel, Daniel, Elihu, Charles Sr.
>3. Neither. That Charles came from one of the other Oyster Bay
>brothers.
>
>It should be noted that Daniel2, above, was the original owner of lot
>#6 in the Oblong.
>
>There are plenty of good theories, speculation, and deductive
>reasoning to come up with all 3 scenarios. Yet we've never found that
>solid proof required. There is plenty of evidence that this fellow
>existed. The following is what we know:
>- Charles Townsend Sr. was on the Dutchess County Tax Rolls
>between 1748 and 1779. Shown in Fredericksburg. 6 Townsends were
>mentioned in those first Tax Roll years. All but Charles can be
>positively confirmed to have come from Oyster Bay.
>- From Pelletreau's History of Putnam County Charles Townsend
>Sr. is mentioned on Page 122 on the Tax List for Philip Philipse
>Patent, 1777. On Page 290 West Line mentions Charles Townsend's
>field; a stone monument made. On Page 419 Charles Townsend Sr. is
>mentioned as a tenant on lot #8 of Philipse Patent in 1754.
>- A document of administration for Absalom Townsend, "late of
>Colonel Lewis Dubois's Regiment a private" dated August 8, 1783.
>Names and signatures on the document include James (this is General
>James, buried at the old Baptist Cemetery in Carmel), Charles,
>Charles Jr., all Townsend. I believe Absolom, Charles Jr., and James
>were sons of Charles Townsend Sr.. Eber is another son.
>- I've seen Charles Townsend Sr.'s wife referred to as Phebe
>Dickinsen. After much digging the source was attributed to the late
>Charles Delmar Townsend with no primary source named.
>- Charles Townsend Sr., Charles Jr., Eber, and James are shown
>on the Dutchess County Militia Seventh Regiment under Colonel
>Ludington. Again I believe they are father and sons.
>- Sons Eber and Charles Jr. removed to Sussex County, NJ by 1793.
>- Pelletreau, on page 710, says "Charles is supposed to have
>been a brother of Uriah and son of Elihu."
>- My own DNA test confirms my link to the Oyster Bay Townsend
>brothers.
>- My link from present to Charles Townsend Sr.'s purported son
>Eber is nicely proven.
>
>
>
>Matt Townsend
>Treasurer, Townsend Society of America
>
>
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