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From: "Edward Smith" <>
Subject: [NYSUFFOL] Re: John Harrud / Harwood > Elizabeth (__) (Harrod) Howell
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 21:34:10 -0500


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From: Norris <>
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Date: Thursday, November 25, 1999 10:59 PM
Subject: [NYSUFFOL] John Harrud / Harwood > Elizabeth (__) (Harrod) Howell


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>The second wife of Richard-1 Howell of Southold was Elizabeth (__)
>Harrud/Harrod. John Harrud died sometime before 1685.
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>I have run across the following tidbits re Harwoods.. for whatever
>they're worth. They may be a lead or not be a lead.... ??
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>_________
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>Harwood in 1698 Southold Census
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> John (287)
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> Could this be a son of Elizabeth (__), first wife of John
>Harrud and second wife of Richard Howell?
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> Mary (663)
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> The Southold Town Records show that shortly after the
>census, Jan 14, 1701, a Mary Harrod married John Wiggens (See LI
>Source Records, p 169, for vitals for the family). Was she a
>sister/daughter of this John Harwood?
>


Norris et al,

I've checked the holdings of the Suffolk County Historical Society to see if
I could find anything re John & Elizabeth Harrud and their children. I found
a fair amount of data; while not enough for a complete picture, there are
some interesting pieces of the puzzle, plus some hints of new areas to
research.

1- The Chauncey Perkins Howell Collection has some very enlightening early,
original, documents of the Richard Howell family, including a 21 Nov 1671
receipt to John Harrud of Mashantotato?/Manshantato? Rhode Island for
supplying shingles in Warwick, Rhode Island [suggesting very strongly that
the John Harrud whose widow Elizabeth married Richard Howell of Southold was
identical to the John Harrod of Warwick whom Savage says married Elizabeth
Cooke of Warwick on 24 Dec 1664].

2- That same collection has an original deposition from John and Lydia Roe
saying that on 21 Nov 1684 they heard John Harrud give his land on "the
main" [i.e. the mainland] to his 3 eldest sons- his eldest son to have the
homelot & the meadow belonging to it, except for 6 acres, and upland
containing 50 acres more or less; the rest of his undivided land he gave to
his two next sons, with the meadow belonging to it, which was 2 shares
purchased of Warwick; further he gave his second son, John, 6 acres of
meadow that had been laid out since he came from there [i.e. Warwick] and
which was part of his initial purchase there; his land at Wading River
[Southold/Brookhaven boundary at that time] he gave to his 2 youngest sons,
Samuel and Jonathan, when they came of age; when his 3 daughters came of age
they were to get two cows apiece.

3- Also in the collection is an inventory of the estate of John Harrod. The
cataloging information in the collection says the inventory was dated 24
November 1687. That is in error, the document is undated, but what it does
say is "inventory of the estate of John Harrod who deceased 24 November
1684". Along with various articles of personal property and livestock the
inventory mentions 5[?] lots of land at Wading River.

4- Another document is an indenture placing Job Harrod, with consent of his
mother Elizabeth Howell and his "father-in-law' Richard Howell, as
apprentice to Jonathan and Bethia Horton, for three years from 18 January
next [unfortunately the indenture is undated].

5- The will of Nathan Coles of Musketo Cove, Oyster Bay, Queens County,
dated 6 December 1724, was witnessed by a Thomas Harrad. Among the legatees
named in the will was "my grandson Lazarus Horton"- the sometimes unreliable
genealogy "Horton's in America" shows Lazarus as the son of the above
Jonathan and Bethia, but gives his grandfathers as Jonathan Horton [Sr] and
Henry Tuthill. [New-York Historical Society, "Abstracts of Wills on File in
the Surrogate's Office, New York", vol. IX, "Abstracts of Unrecorded Wills
Prior to 1790", p. 144]

6- A marriage license was issued to George Harwood and ____Willemke, of
Flatbush on 19 Aug 1695 [NYG&B Record, v.3, 1872, p. 92] and one was issued
30 Oct 1698 for Richard Harrod and Mary Jones [ibid., p. 193]

7- "Moore's Index to the 1698 Census, Southold" states the following
"Harrude, Richard, removed to Brookhaven, thence to Queens Co., prob. M.
Williamse ____;
c[hild] Mary,.... 1667 deed from P. Dickerson, 10 acres...1679/80 Deed from
John Conkling, Wading River...1717 Deed from Williamse and her daughter Mary
to Samuel Crook" I suspect Moore has badly scrambled several individuals
and generations together here.

8- "Genealogies of Long Island Families" [edited by Henry Hoff, vol II, p.
488] says Nathaniel Tuthill of Goshen, b. Brookhaven 17 Jan 1730, married
Margaret Herod of LI, b. 3 Aug 1739. On page 678 it also cites the 14 Jan
1701 marriage of John Wiggins and Mary Harwood/Harrude/Harrod/Harrid. It
gives her parents as Richard and Williamse Harrude, doubtlessly relying on
Moore's Index. On chronological grounds I think it much more likely she was
daughter of John and Elizabeth (Cooke) Harrud.

9- A 1715 New Jersey militia muster roll shows the Second Company of Col.
Thomas Farmer's Regiment had as sergeant John Harrod. Based on some of the
other surnames in the regiment it may have been from Essex or Middlesex
Counties, and there appeared to be some names which may have been previously
from queens and Kings Counties, NY

Hope some of this helps your research.

Ned

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