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From: Norris <>
Subject: Re: [NYSUFFOL] Parshall/Gardiner/Terry
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 00:04:12 -0700
References: <200104160001.f3G017S30849@lists7.rootsweb.com> <3ADA6677.2335@alaska.net>
In-Reply-To: <3ADA6677.2335@alaska.net>


On Sun, 15 Apr 2001 20:26:47 -0700, you wrote:


>Jenny and I are both descended from Parshall Terry Sr. md Deborah Clark.
>I'm through the son William NATHAN TERRY, the Patriot and she through
>Parshall Terry Jr. the Loyalist.

I see - your lines left the island with these brothers, then, huh (my
research is restricted to Southold is why I ask.)

>7. William NATHAN Terry b ca 1760 Long Island, NY d Pontiac MI md
>Eleanor Lewis b Oct
>1776, d Aug 23, 1849 Pontiac MI, parents unknown

Thanks for this fellow... do you have the rest of the kids of Parshall
and Deborah??

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>9. Johnathan Terry b 1707 Southold, NY d Nov 18, 1753, md May 17, 1730
>to Jemima Parshall b
>1708/10 Southold, NY, daughter of Capt. Isreal Parshall and Joanna Swezy
>
>10. Nathaniel Terry b Nov 16, 1683 Southold d Dec 17 1722/23 md unknown
>.
>
>But I don't know about Chamberline link. Where does that fit in?

The Chamberlain line comes in with the Swezeys. The immigrant was the
widow Chamberlain and her children. Parshall Terry's Chamberlain line
is:

Direct Descendants of Robert Chamberlain

1 Robert Chamberlain1590 - 1639
..+Elizabeth Stoughton1590 - 1647
2 Joanna Chamberlain1630 - 1711
..+Richard Betts1613 - 1713
3 Mary Betts1654 - 1734
..+Joseph Swezey1653 - 1734
4 Joanna Swezey1677 - 1725
..+Israel Parshall1680 - 1738
5 Jemima Parshall1708 -
..+Jonathan Terry1707 - 1753
6 Parshall Terry1734 - 1811


For more on the Chamberlain / Scudder / Very kinship network at the
immigrant and English level, see my web pages:

My Home Page

http://ntgen.tripod.com/bw/index.html

The Chamberlain / Scudder / Stoughton / Very / Lathrop / Chamberlain /
kinship network:

http://ntgen.tripod.com/bw/scudder_index.html

and the Chamberlain / Betts line info

http://ntgen.tripod.com/bw/betts_index.html

The info on the English origins of the wife of Richard Betts is from:
TAG 72:285-300, 1997: A New England Immigrant Kinship Network, Jane
Fletcher Fiske.

The immigrant was the Widow Chamberlain, sister of the various
Stoughtons of Conn and Mass, Elizabeth (Stoughton) Scudder
Chamberlain:


1 Elizabeth Stoughton1590 - 1647
..+John Scudder1590 - 1625

2 Elizabeth (1) Scudder1614 - 1616
2 Thomas Scudder1617 - 1617
2 John Scudder1618 - 1690
..+Hannah (___)1625 -
2 Thomas Scudder1620 -
2 Elizabeth Scudder1625 - 1682
..+Samuel Lathrop1623 - 1700


*2nd Husband of Elizabeth Stoughton:
..+Robert Chamberlain1590 - 1639

2 Samuel Chamberlain1628 - 1649
2 Joanna Chamberlain1630 - 1711
..+Richard Betts1613 - 1713
2 Sarah Chamberlain1632 - 1635



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>Actually the Parshall book says Nov. 18, and references the Salmon
>Record
>The William Zimmerman Terry manuscript has the same date.

They would appear they have the wrong date, cause that's not what the
Salmon Records show.


>> The Salmon Records has:
>>
>> 11/18/1753: "Jonathn Terries weavers son thoms"
>> 12/03/1753: "Jonathn Terry Tayler 46"

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>The William Zimmerman Terry manuscript shows that Jonathan the tailor,
>was the son of Nathanial Jr. and mother unknown although it is noted
>there was a school of thought that he was actually son of Nathanial
>Terry Sr. and Mary Horton.

Not likely, but possible. Mary Horton married Nov 30, 1682 (Southold
Town Records). His date of birth from the Salmon Death Record is 1707.
If she married as young as age 20 (more likely 25), she would have
been at least 45 by 1707, probably older > so, it is possible. Course,
that should mean the first Nathaniel was dead by then > which I don't
think is documented. Of course, if the Jonathan who married Bethia
Parshall is not documented to Nathaniel, the son, he could have been
from about any of the sons of the first Nathaniel.

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>I didn't see mention of the HALLOCK line in the above list.

That's because she's not in it. The first wife of Caleb Horton, and
the mother of all of his children is UNKNOWN. A Caleb Horton did marry
an Abigail Horton Dec 23, 1696 (Salmon Records), but that Caleb was
almost certainly Caleb-2's nephew, Caleb, son of Jonathan-2. (See
McLaurin, etal for discussions of the legendary fable of the wife of
Caleb Horton being a Hallock.)

>11 Mary Horton d Sept 26, 1726, md Nathaniel Terry b Jan 1656 Southold d
>Oct
>23, 1723 Southold md Nov 31 1682 son of the immigrant Richard Terry
>and
>Abigail Lines
>
>12. Abigail Hallock b 1643, d 1697 md Caleb Horton b 1646 Southold
>Suffolk
>CO. Long Island, New York, son of Barnabas Horton and Mary Langton

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>>
>> The 11/18/1753 date of death is for their son, Thomas Terry. See above
>> under Jonathan Terry's response.

>Who is this Thomas. I'm confused. I don't have any information on a
>Thomas.
>

This Thomas Terry was the son of Jonathan Terry, the tailor / weaver,
died a couple of weeks before Jonathan:

11/18/1753: "Jonathn Terries weavers son thoms"




>> I would take the English origins below with a grain of salt. What were
>> your sources for the following info??

I would still take the English origins with a grain of salt - ie
unproven legend.


Norris

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